Harvard Psychiatrist: How Elite Athletes Master Crippling Stress (Exclusive Interview)
There is a crisis facing elite athletes that is hidden in plain sight. The crisis is one of mental health. More recently, high profile athletes like Michael Phelps have been vocal about the depression they have faced during their careers. Many more athletes stay silent, or even worse, ignore their symptoms.
I’ve talked at length about the mental health challenges that face high level athletes. While I’m well read about these topics, I’m no expert, and wanted to get a professional perspective.
I spoke with Dr. Ryan Davis to learn more details about the mental health landscape facing elite athletes. He is a Harvard-trained, Board-certified psychiatrist in Child, Adolescent, And Adult Psychiatry. As the founder of the Mind Health Institute in Beverly Hills, he leads a multidisciplinary mental health practice focused on providing comprehensive, personalized care. He has expertise in both psychotherapy and psychopharmacology. What is special about Dr. Davis is that he also works with elite athletes and business executives as a performance coach. He is the perfect person to talk about mental health in high level athletes because understands them intimately.
In this episode, he goes in-depth into the mental health for elite athletes and shares his wealth of knowledge on improving mental resilience, achieving peak performance, and creating more purposeful, balanced lives.
Ryan's Links:
- https://www.capeperformance.com/
- https://www.mhi-bh.com/
Other Links:
- Stolen Focus Book: https://amzn.to/3DTbceo
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:45 Psychiatry vs Psychology
00:08:55 Process for Intake
00:11:38 ADHD in Athletes
00:16:23 ADHD Treatments in Athletes
00:17:55 Feedback Loops
00:19:56 The Pain Cycle
00:22:31 Burnout
00:28:52 Toxic Habits
00:31:43 Signs You Should Seek Help
00:35:25 The Mental Health Stigma
00:37:25 Injuries and Mental Health
00:45:11 Retirement
00:51:54 Icarus
00:53:13 Having a Team
00:56:22 Anxiety in Athletes
01:03:47 Actionable Items
01:06:23 Mindfulness Practice
01:11:09 Yips
01:12:48 Solving problems and getting ahead
01:16:37 Sleep
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The Harsh Reality of Being a Team USA Athlete (Exclusive Interview)
Many athletes work their whole lives for a chance to compete in the
Olympics. Thousands of hours go into training for an event that can last
a few minutes. Some like Miachel Phelps find glory, while many more
fall short of their dreams. Few know this journey better than Dave
Durante. During his career, Dave put in the hard work and saw success
and heartbreak at the highest level. He gives an incredible candid look
into the process associated with the pursuit of greatness on the world
stage.
Dave is a multiple time USA gymnastics national champion and was part of
the 2008 Beijing Olympic Team as an alternate. He helped coach Stanford
University to an NCAA Team Title in 2009. He is also the co-owner of
Power Monkey Fitness and Power Monkey Camp.
In this episode we learn how Dave handled the lowest point of his
career, when he was not selected to compete in the 2008 Olympics. We
explore the day to day of a Team USA athlete before and during the
games, what Dave has learned about being an elite athlete from being a
coach, and how the future is looking for olympic sports like men’s
gymnastics (Spoiler, it isn’t promising).
Dave's Links:
https://www.powermonkeycamp.com/
https://www.powermonkeyfitness.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydieYe5b0T4
https://www.instagram.com/davedurante/
https://www.instagram.com/powermonkeyfitness/
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:00 Love of Gymnastics
00:05:26 Source of Motivation
00:08:48 The USA Gymnastics Journey
00:14:19 Dave's Olympic Experience
00:28:55 Getting Over Failures
00:37:43 Preparing for the Olympics
00:43:43 What is the life of an athlete like
00:50:17 Burning out
01:03:38 Transition to Coaching
01:15:35 Reflecting on his Approach
01:19:39 Lessons from other athletes
01:29:00 Powermonkey Fitness
01:38:34 Skill Develoment Progressions
01:53:42 The State of Men's Gymnastics
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The Coaching Mastermind Behind Michael Phelps and Leon Marchand (Exclusive Interview with Bob Bowman)
In the 2024 Olympics, Leon Marchand broke the 200 IM Olympic record that Michael Phelps had set in 2008. Many people see this as a beautiful passing of the torch. On the Exponential Athlete podcast we see this as the continuation of a legacy. Leon and Michael don’t just have olympic gold medals and records in common. Both of these athletes are disciples of the legendary coach Bob Bowman. His methods have been proven at all levels of swimming and have stood the test of time.
He is the current coach at the University of Texas and has held head coaching positions at Arizona State, and the University of Michigan. He was also the US Olympic team head coach in the 2016, and has been involved USA swimming since 2004. In this past Olympics, he also coached Leon on the French team.
Bob is the author of the golden rules, one of my favorite books about creating systems for success in sport and in life.
Today, I had the pleasure of interviewing Bob about the similarities and differences between Leon and Michael, his coaching philosophy, creating resilience on his teams, and the fine details that make champions. If you’re already a fan of the pod, you know that I’ve already done extensive study into Bob and Michael. It was amazing to be able to learn from him in person.
00:00 Intro
01:33 Similarities Between Leon and Michael
05:08 Creating Adversity
08:08 Goals
13:10 Differences Between Leon and Michael
25:04 What is the role of a coach
28:34 Experimentation
32:48 How did Bob Study?
40:57 Lactic Acid Testing
43:41 Visualization
49:06 Biofeedback
Books Referenced:
The Science of Winning: https://amzn.to/3VK9zpF
The Power of Now: https://amzn.to/3ZFIe93
Finding the Winning Edge: https://www.scribd.com/document/212816221/Finding-the-Winning-Edge
The Football Coaching Bible: https://amzn.to/3ZWGQQSThe
Swimming Coaching Bible: https://amzn.to/4gEl3mw
Keith Bell Book: https://amzn.to/4gZHy5JExponential Athlete
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What Elite Performers Can Learn from Green Berets (Exclusive Interview)
Some of the most impressive advancements in performance come from our military. Earl Woods taught Tiger very early on the importance of standard operating procedure, and Bob Bowman took his swimmers to train with the military to build resilience.
I went to Camp Mackall in North Carolina to learn from the special forces about the systems they use to assess and select elite performers in the military. I learn about the characteristics of great soldiers, which happen to be many of the same things that make great athletes.
More specifically, I spoke with CSM Lee Strong and SM 'Chuy' Almonte.
CSM Lee Strong is a professional soldier with 27 years in the U.S. Army, 24 of which have been spent in a special operations community as a Special Forces soldier more commonly referred to as the “Green Berets”. He has conducted routine and contingency deployments in 11 countries across 4 continents, and served at every level of command within a Special Forces Operational Group.
SGM Chuy Almonte is also professional Soldier with 28 years experience in the US Army, 24 of which have been in special operations, both as a Support Soldier and a Commando. He has deployed in all corners of the globe - supporting of Joint Combined Exchange Training missions to Asia, combat operations to Afghanistan, Counter Narco-Terrorism missions in South America and Central Asia, and numerous missions throughout the African and European continents.
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:54 What Do You Look for in Soldiers?
00:07:08 ARSOF Attributes
00:11:30 Evaluating Attributes
00:19:24 How to Create Trust and Compassion
00:29:21 Goals for Soldiers
00:32:21 Who Drops Out?
00:37:08 Can You Instill Intrinsic Motivation?
00:40:40 Understanding Core Values
00:49:10 Habits of Successful Soldiers
00:52:50 Feedback and Data
00:58:00 Low Tech vs High Tech Training
01:00:46 Assessment Vs Training
01:03:28 Calculated Risks
01:11:57 Secret Language
Resources:
Core Values Deck: https://amzn.to/3VpnWQ3
ARSOF more info: https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/special-ops
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Military Performance Expert: "Colleges are Sabotaging Their Best Athletes" (Exclusive Interview with Dr. Allison Brager)
To better understand what circadian rhythms mean to athletes, I interviewed Dr. Allison Brager. She is a neurobiologist that specializes in circadian rhythms, sleep, and behavioral genetics research. She is currently the Deputy Chief Science Officer at the JFK Special Warfare Center and School leading the Special Forces research into human performance. Dr. Brager is also an elite athlete herself. She was a professional crossfit team athlete and an 11x gay games gold medalist.
Allison serves on the NCAA task force for Mental Health and Sleep and was a contributor to the NCAA student athlete mental health handbook. She is also the author of Meathead: Unraveling the athletic brain.
In this episode, we touch on the purpose the circadian rhythm serves, the things that can disrupt it, and how we can help to regulate during travel and stressful situations. We also touch on how Dr. Brager turns her research into practice in her athletic pursuits.
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:34 Circadian Rhythms Basics
00:20:29 What Disrupts Circadian Rhythms
00:33:21 Pac 12 Move
00:39:16 Sleep Depravation vs Phase Shift
00:44:51 Behavioral Genetics
00:53:17 Tradeoffs for Athletes
01:00:43 Lactic Acid
01:06:11 Meathead
Allison's Resources:
https://www.instagram.com/docjockzzz/?hl=en
Morningness-Eveningness Questionnaire - https://qxmd.com/calculate/calculator_829/morningness-eveningness-questionnaire-meq
https://humsci.stanford.edu/feature/sleep-experts-share-strategies-minimize-jet-lags-effects-college-athlete-performance-and
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Sobre The Exponential Athlete | Sports Performance
On a quest to compile the most complete study on sports performance ever created. What separates the greatest athletes, coaches, and teams from their competitors? What can we learn from these greats that we can apply to our own lives? This is a podcast made for elite professional athletes or others who want to reach the pinnacle of their field.
We explore concepts from sports science, sports psychology, nutrition, neuro-science, exercise science, and much more.