This week I spoke with longtime activist and author Dean Spade about the complexities of relationships and the challenges we face in a society shaped by disposability culture. We discussed the fear of being wrong in public and of conflict and feedback. He spoke about why self-help often falls short in addressing systemic issues and shared some insights from his latest book, Love in a F*cked Up World, which offers practical advice on navigating personal growth and connection in a world that often feels isolating and disconnected. I loved both the book and this conversation. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- Dean's books | podcast | IG: @spade.dean- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 426 - Queering in Friendships: Rae McDaniel, Sex Therapist & Author of Gender Magic, Returns
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How to Make a Space Feel Like You - with Cooper Osinski
This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the world of interiors feel both approachable and fun. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Find Cooper on the Web | Instagram | YouTube- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 425 - Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns
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Ambition Within Cynicism: Organizing Creative Chaos with Abbi Miller
This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I’ve found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she’s learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal with cynicism and find ambition again, and her strategies for effective quarterly goal-setting. Plus, Abbi gets me to open up about some of my own career changes and how I’ve been navigating them within my life. And you can hear me talk about it more on her show, where she had me on as a guest too. Show notes:- Abbi's Workwomb Instagram | Podcast- Free 30-min consult with Abbi to chat about working together- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:In Abbi's previous episode, we covered her pivot from full-time work to freelancing, navigating burnout, and the importance of support in both business and personal life.
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How to Choose: Erin Claire Jones on Decision Making in Career & Relationships & How Human Design Can Help
This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin also shares how these principles have transformed her life, and we explore how they can be used by anyone, even those just beginning to learn about the system.I first discovered her grounded approach to Human Design when I was gifted a personalized reading by her in 2017. What she shared was so useful to me, it led me to host 2 live podcast episodes with her as the guest. Since then, her work has been featured in Forbes, Elle, Vogue, and Nylon, and she's worked with thousands of people in over 160 countries. Erin and I reflect on how the concepts in her new book connect to the way we navigate our lives, as well as how Human Design can be used as a tool for self-awareness, overcoming obstacles, and better communication for more harmonious relationships with others. Show notes:- Find Erin Claire on IG: @erinclairejones | @humandesignblueprint- Erin's book: How Do You Choose?- Look up your design here | code LETITOUT for a discount on your guide- Study human design with Erin here- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 249: Habits, growth, doing our best, human design and love with Erin Claire LIVEEpisode 242: Human Design, family, connection, parenting with Jenna Zoë
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Waiting for a Ride: Christopher DeLoach, Artist & Bumper Sticker Legend on the Stories That Shape Us
LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creating the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He shares a series of surreal encounters while hitchhiking, including rides with enigmatic characters that challenged his worldview. Our conversation spans time—from his childhood in NYC to adventures in his early 20s and how both continue to shape him today. We talked about identity, American culture, his painting process, collecting ideas, funding and sustaining a career in LA, becoming known for something, doubt, belief, and even death. It’s a humorous and earnest conversation that I really loved—let us know if you listen!Show notes:- Find Christopher on the Web | Instagram -The bumper sticker story we talk about- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout- Zine shop is here! - My Creative ClinicIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 393: Kismet Color with Artist Kimmy Quillin: Painting, Living in NYC as an Artist, and Highs and Lows of Creating
Long-form conversations with a variety friends and strangers. Guests include musicians, writers, chefs, parents, painters, designers, herbalists, therapists, comedians, and actors. Here they candidly discuss how they spend their days. We cover connection, creativity, productivity, well-being, sex, love, body image, transitions, and more. Sometimes things get deep and philosophical and sometimes they are funny and light because life is both.
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