The FitMind Podcast: Mental Fitness, Neuroscience & Psychology

Mindfulness, Medicine, & the Biology of Stress explores how meditation can change our relationship to stress, support the body's natural healing systems, and help us live with more presence, compassion, and ease.
In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we sit down with Craig Hassed, MD, physician, educator, and mindfulness expert, to examine the science and practice of mind-body medicine. Drawing from decades of clinical work, teaching, and contemplative practice, Craig explains how chronic stress creates physiological wear and tear in the body, known as allostatic load, and why learning to return to the present moment can have effects far beyond feeling calmer.
The conversation explores how mindfulness may influence inflammation, immune function, gene expression, and biological aging, including research on telomeres and the body's stress circuitry. Craig also discusses why informal mindfulness in daily life may be just as important as formal meditation practice, especially when we are caught in worry, pressure, or mental projections about the future.
Topics include:
How mindfulness became part of the medical curriculum at Monash University
Why chronic stress creates wear and tear on the body
What allostatic load means for health and aging
How meditation may affect inflammation, immunity, and gene expression
The relationship between mindfulness and telomeres
Why presence can improve focus, performance, and flow
The difference between empathy, empathic distress, and compassion
Why compassion may protect against burnout
How mindfulness can support doctors, patients, students, and everyday life
The question of consciousness and whether it may be more fundamental than matter
A practical and wide-ranging conversation for anyone interested in the medical science of mindfulness, the biology of stress, or how contemplative practice can support resilience, compassion, and human flourishing.
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Liam's book, Fit Mind, is now available! You can pick up a copy and learn more at fitmind.org/book.
FitMind Neuroscience-Based App: http://bit.ly/afitmind
Website: www.fitmind.org
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Show Notes
0:00 | Introduction to Dr. Craig Hassed
3:23 | Discovering meditation without a teacher
9:18 | Bringing mindfulness into clinical medicine
10:21 | Teaching mindfulness to medical students
15:10 | How chronic stress affects the body
15:56 | Understanding allostatic load
20:57 | Epigenetics, inflammation, and immune function
22:42 | Meditation, telomeres, and biological aging
26:17 | How much meditation is enough?
29:18 | Formal practice vs. mindfulness in daily life
31:17 | The growth of mindfulness research
36:54 | The ESSENCE model of health
38:56 | Choosing the right meditation practice
41:47 | How the mind creates unnecessary stress
45:21 | Mindfulness, performance, and flow states
51:21 | Mindfulness education and human flourishing
52:40 | Technology, isolation, and genuine connection
1:00:43 | Empathy, empathic distress, and compassion
1:01:42 | Why compassion may protect against burnout
1:06:16 | Is consciousness more fundamental than matter?
1:07:10 | Can consciousness be scientifically measured?
1:08:33 | Craig's daily practice and rapid-fire questions
1:09:15 | Final thoughts

Zen & the Science of Living Well with Robert Waldinger, MD explores what the longest-running study of adult life reveals about happiness, health, connection, and the many different ways a meaningful life can unfold.
In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we sit down with Robert Waldinger, MD, psychiatrist, Zen teacher, and director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, to examine what actually helps people thrive over the course of a lifetime. Drawing from more than eight decades of research, Robert explains why strong relationships are one of the clearest predictors of long-term health and happiness, and how loneliness can affect the body through chronic stress, inflammation, and nervous system dysregulation.
The conversation also explores the overlap between psychotherapy, lifespan research, and Zen practice. Robert discusses why there is no single formula for a good life, how the mind fills in the blanks when faced with uncertainty, and why equanimity is not emotional suppression, but a wiser relationship to reactivity.
Topics include:
How the Harvard Study of Adult Development tracks happiness across a lifetime
Why relationships are deeply linked to health and longevity
How loneliness can become a chronic stressor in the body
The difference between solitude and loneliness
What people most often regret near the end of life
How Zen and psychology both reveal the stories the mind creates
Practical ways to build "social fitness" in everyday life
A grounded, expansive conversation for anyone interested in the science of happiness, the health effects of connection, or how contemplative practice can help us live with more presence, meaning, and care.
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Liam's upcoming book, Fit Mind, is now available for preorder. You can learn more at fitmind.org/book.
FitMind Neuroscience-Based App: http://bit.ly/afitmind
Website: www.fitmind.org
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Show Notes
0:00 | Merging Zen, science, and psychotherapy
3:18 | Breaking the silence on personal spiritual practice
6:12 | Overview of the Harvard Study of Adult Development
9:53 | How chronic loneliness breaks down physical health
13:09 | Evolutionary biology of group connection and safety
15:10 | Many paths to a good life: unconventional contentment
19:17 | Vulnerability and the myth of the self-made man
21:35 | Research-backed strategies for building new friendships
24:23 | End-of-life regrets and sources of pride
26:08 | Resume values vs. eulogy values
28:02 | Noticing and transforming internal self-criticism
32:52 | The WISER model for slowing down social reactions
39:32 | Equanimity: feeling deeply without reactive explosion
42:11 | Subjective loneliness vs. the contentment of solitude
48:23 | Practical exercises: gratitude, subtraction, and nature
51:44 | Social fitness and the impact of digital habits
55:52 | The future of human connection in the age of AI
1:01:21 | Closing reflections and the upcoming book Nothing to Fix

The Illusion of Self: Nondual Meditation & Brain Science with John Dunne, PhD explores how our sense of identity is constructed moment by moment, drawing on Buddhist philosophy, neuroscience, and contemplative practice to explain why thoughts feel real and how seeing through them can fundamentally change our experience.
In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we sit down with John Dunne, PhD—a leading scholar-practitioner bridging ancient wisdom and modern science—to examine the nature of mind, self, and awareness. Rather than treating thoughts as accurate reflections of reality, John frames them as useful but often misleading constructions shaped by the brain's attempt to predict and navigate the world.
We explore how meditation helps us "de-reify" thoughts—seeing them as mental events rather than truths—and why this shift may be central to reducing anxiety and depression. John also breaks down non-dual traditions like Mahamudra and Dzogchen, offering a clear lens into practices aimed not at changing experience, but at recognizing its underlying nature.
Topics include:
How the brain constructs a sense of self through predictive models
Why thoughts feel real and how to see through them
The role of meditation in shifting our relationship to thinking
Differences between gradual and non-dual approaches to practice
What "effortless awareness" means and why it matters
Scientific insights from studying advanced meditators
A grounded, intellectually rich conversation for anyone interested in understanding the mind more clearly, working with difficult thoughts, or exploring the intersection of neuroscience and contemplative practice.
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Liam's upcoming book, Fit Mind, is now available for preorder. You can learn more at fitmind.org/book.
FitMind Neuroscience-Based App: http://bit.ly/afitmind
Website: www.fitmind.org
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Show Notes
0:00 | From astronaut dreams to inner exploration 2:40 | Introducing John Dunne and his background 5:30 | Identity crisis and discovering meditation 9:30 | Early practice: Vipassana, metta, and analytical meditation 14:30 | Questioning reality and the nature of self 19:30 | Concepts, language, and why thoughts feel real 25:30 | How the mind constructs identity moment to moment 31:30 | Mahamudra and Dzogchen: gradual vs non-dual paths 38:30 | Effort vs effortlessness in meditation 45:00 | Anxiety, depression, and predictive processing 50:30 | De-reification: seeing thoughts as thoughts 56:30 | Watching the mind vs being lost in it 1:01:30 | Brain studies with advanced meditators 1:07:00 | Non-dual awareness and "always-on" presence 1:12:30 | What enlightenment is (and isn't) 1:17:30 | Tukdam and the mystery of consciousness at death 1:22:30 | Science, meditation, and open questions 1:25:30 | Closing reflections

Meditation is evolving.
New technologies like neurofeedback, virtual reality, and AI are beginning to intersect with ancient contemplative practices, raising an important question: can technology help people learn meditation more effectively?
In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we speak with Steve Haberlin, PhD, researcher, meditator, and author of Meta Meditation for Mental Health, about the emerging world of tech-assisted meditation.
Steve explains why most people stop using meditation apps within the first month, how neurofeedback devices can provide real-time feedback about mental states, and how AI may soon create highly personalized meditation training. We also explore what virtual reality adds to meditation, and why different meditation techniques affect the brain in different ways.
Throughout the conversation, Steve emphasizes the importance of balance. Technology may help more people access meditation, but the core practices that have been refined over thousands of years still remain essential.
Topics include:
How neurofeedback devices provide real-time feedback during meditation
Why most people stop using meditation apps within the first month
How VR meditation creates presence and reduces distraction
What an AI meditation teacher might look like in the future
Why different meditation techniques affect the brain differently
How technology can enhance practice without replacing traditional methods
A thoughtful conversation about the future of meditation and how ancient wisdom and modern technology may work together to make mental training more accessible, personalized, and effective.
FitMind Neuroscience-Based App: http://bit.ly/afitmind
Website: www.fitmind.org
Show Notes
0:00 | Neuroscience, meditation, and real-time feedback 1:23 | Introducing Steve Haberlin 2:46 | Steve's meditation journey and early practice 8:12 | What "meta meditation" means 9:19 | Why most people quit meditation apps 12:28 | What neuroscience reveals about meditation 15:51 | State vs trait change in long-term meditators 18:03 | Can technology shorten the meditation learning curve? 20:52 | What VR adds to meditation practice 23:21 | The rise of AI meditation teachers 27:00 | Using AI to design personalized meditation practices 30:25 | Why personalization matters in meditation 33:26 | Neurofeedback and learning meditation in real time 39:35 | The pitfalls of tech-assisted meditation 46:11 | Balancing traditional meditation with new technology 47:50 | Practical approaches for focus and anxiety 51:07 | Future innovations in meditation technology 54:42 | Balancing ancient wisdom with emerging tools 55:49 | Steve's book and closing reflections

Rites of Passage & the Wisdom in Collapse explores how personal crisis can function as initiation, drawing on contemplative practice, psychology, and wisdom traditions to explain why avoiding discomfort often deepens suffering and why meeting it skillfully can transform us.
In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we sit down with Linda Thai, therapist and meditation teacher, to examine what it means to grow up as individuals and as a culture. Rather than viewing breakdown as failure, Linda frames it as a descent — a necessary stripping away of outdated identities and rigid patterns that allows for integration and renewal.
We explore how modern life has largely removed meaningful rites of passage, how this absence contributes to addiction, burnout, and disconnection, and why surrender is often misunderstood. Linda describes maturation as a shift from avoidance to discernment, from compulsive striving toward restraint, reciprocity, and community.
Topics include:
How rites of passage traditionally supported psychological development
Why avoiding pain often becomes the source of suffering
The parallels between personal collapse and collective crisis
The difference between hustle culture and nourishment
How community supports skillful engagement with discomfort
A grounded, reflective conversation for anyone navigating transition, identity shifts, or collective uncertainty and for those interested in how maturity develops through discomfort rather than in spite of it.
FitMind Neuroscience-Based App: http://bit.ly/afitmind
Website: www.fitmind.org
Show Notes
0:00 | Collapse, initiation, and why maturity matters 1:20 | Introducing Linda Thai 2:58 | Identity, displacement, and belonging 6:45 | Alaska, Buddhism, and discovering interdependent happiness 12:16 | From practice to vocation 17:46 | Addiction, avoidance, and sitting with discomfort 19:34 | Rites of passage and confronting shadow 24:30 | Rough initiations and collective descent 31:17 | Are retreats modern rites of passage? 33:40 | Vipassana and observing the thinking mind 36:29 | The wisdom in collapse 41:05 | Community, addiction, and modern disconnection 42:16 | Nourishment vs hustle culture 46:38 | What a nourished life looks like 50:33 | Suffering with grace 51:19 | Intention and living into maturity 52:37 | You can't think your way into a new way of living 53:19 | Closing reflections