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- What’s the one excuse you’ve been giving yourself long enough that you’ve started believing it?
As part of the “Road to the Summit,” a special series ramping up to the 2026 Game Changers Summit this November 11-12, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re throwing it back to the 2022 Game Changers Summit, where Camille Vasquez, litigation attorney best known for her work on the high-profile defamation trial between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, took the stage for a conversation with Jessica Mogill.
Camille Vasquez had tried about five jury trials before she found herself at the center of one of the biggest courtroom stories in recent memory. She shares how preparation, teamwork, and listening carried her through, and how life changed once the whole world knew her name.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why overpreparing builds confidence when you are underestimated
How teamwork and active listening hold up under intense pressure
What it takes to protect your reputation in the court of public opinion
Whether or not cameras are ever in your courtroom, your reputation is being judged outside of it.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:02:14) Why Camille chose law
(00:03:07) Authenticity wins with juries
(00:04:08) Learning from Robert Shapiro
(00:07:18) Joining the Depp trial
(00:08:33) Teamwork under pressure
(00:12:16) Cross-examining Amber Heard
(00:13:50) Why she never feared losing
(00:14:45) How fame changed her life
(00:16:52) Using criticism as fuel
(00:17:50) The court of public opinion
(00:19:18) What’s next and giving back
(00:20:53) What keeps her going
(00:22:45) Landing a high-profile case
(00:24:34) What being a game changer means
Links & Resources:
Camille Vasquez
Johnny Depp
Amber Heard
Depp v. Heard
Robert Shapiro
O.J. Simpson murder case
Laura Wasser
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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As part of the “Road to the Summit,” a special series ramping up to the 2026 Game Changers Summit this November 11-12, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re throwing it back to the 2025 Game Changers Summit, where Kyle Maynard, award-winning extreme athlete and quadruple amputee, took the stage to share the mindset that got him up some of the tallest mountains in the world.
Born without lower arms and legs, Kyle built a career as a wrestler, powerlifter, and mixed martial artist before taking on peaks most able-bodied climbers wouldn’t attempt. In this presentation, he breaks down how a near-failure on Mount Aconcagua became one of the most meaningful days of his life, and why focusing on the next three feet applies just as much to running a law firm as it does to climbing a mountain.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why discipline isn’t about five-year plans, but about the next three feet in front of you
How to turn panic and self-doubt into fuel instead of an excuse to quit
What it takes to stop waiting for permission and build your own version of “no excuses”
Whatever mountain you’re staring down this year, remember you only ever have to make it up three feet at a time.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:48) There Are No Excuses
(00:05:37) When the Plan Falls Apart
(00:09:32) Three Feet at a Time
(00:13:37) The Boulder and Wanting to Quit
(00:17:46) Taught to Be Normal, Not Coddled
(00:19:41) Learning to Dress Himself at 15
(00:22:31) Grandma’s Grocery Store Lesson
(00:26:54) Consistency Beats Everything
(00:29:04) Losing His First 35 Matches
(00:31:19) Fighting in the MMA Cage
(00:34:24) The Monkey Mind
(00:41:44) One Shot at the Summit
(00:44:04) Wanting to Find Out If It’s Possible
(00:46:04) Standing on the Roof of South America
(00:48:50) Closing Thoughts and Free Resources
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Links & Resources:
No Excuses: The True Story of a Congenital Amputee Who Became a Champion in Wrestling and in Life by Kyle Maynard
A Fighting Chance
David Goggins
Richard Machowicz
Mike Tyson
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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210. AMMA - Failure Isn’t Final: Lessons Learned From Setbacks and Struggles - How long has your team known what you should do before you finally did it?
As part of the “Road to the Summit,” a special series ramping up to the 2026 Game Changers Summit this November 11-12, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re throwing it back to the 2024 Game Changers Summit, where Kat Cole, CEO of AG1 and former president of Cinnabon, took the stage to share what she has learned about driving innovation.
Starting as a Hooters hostess at 17 and going on to run some of the best-known brands in the world, Kat’s story is a lesson in acting on what is already in front of you. Her advice is simple: ask your team what to change, then act on what they say.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why your success can hide the changes that matter most
How to ask your team three questions that show what to stop, start, and change
What it takes to move a hesitant team from fear to action
Someone on your team has probably already spotted the fix you haven’t gotten to yet.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:03:23) From Hooters hostess to CEO
(00:04:48) Why she took over AG1
(00:09:18) Cinnabon amid a recession
(00:11:53) Staying close to the action
(00:12:33) The three questions to ask
(00:16:02) Level up while winning
(00:20:17) Franchisees threaten to sue
(00:22:47) The fear of trading down
(00:26:11) From fear to action
(00:29:31) Back the productive rebels
(00:31:46) The cost of moving too fast
(00:32:31) A childhood in Jacksonville
(00:35:41) What took you so long?
(00:37:50) The Hot Shot Rule
(00:41:15) Your past is not your anchor
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Links & Resources:
Kat Cole
AG1
Hooters
Focus Brands
Baked by Melissa
Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara
Behavioral economics
Great Recession
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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388. From Hooters Hostess to $600M CEO: Leading With Grit, Humility, and Urgency with Kat Cole - Every doubter, copycat, and competitor you've ever resented just handed you free fuel, whether they meant to or not.
In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill field three listener questions about the people who doubt you, copy you, and measure themselves against you. They cover what to do when a skeptical father-in-law finally comes around, how to respond when a rival firm copies your playbook move for move, and why checking in on the competition too often can work against you. At the end of the day, the less energy you spend on other people's opinions and other people's moves, the more you have left to build something nobody else can touch.
Here's what you'll learn:
Why taking the high road beats getting even, no matter how satisfying revenge might feel
How to respond when a competitor copies your playbook move for move
What comparing yourself to everyone else is actually costing you
Stop handing your energy to people who don't deserve it, and start spending it on the business only you can build.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:29) Gratitude after a near-miss bike crash
(00:06:56) A skeptical father-in-law comes around
(00:10:42) When a rival copies your playbook
(00:13:39) When competitive tracking goes too far
(00:15:34) Comparison really is the thief of joy
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Links & Resources:
Warren Buffett
Berkshire Hathaway
Richistan by Robert Frank
For All Mankind
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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286. AMMA - Innovate, Don’t Imitate: Handling Competitors, Critics, and Copycats 503. Escaping Poverty to Create a Billion-Dollar, Flamin’ Hot Brand with Richard Montañez [Encore Edition]
06/10/2026 | 1h 6minWhat if the only thing standing between you and your billion-dollar idea is the fear of looking ridiculous?
In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Richard Montañez, the man behind the creation of Flamin' Hot Cheetos, to unpack the mindset that took him from a janitor at Frito-Lay to a billion-dollar brand builder. Richard shares the childhood lessons, the risks he took, and the relentless hunger that drove him to create opportunity where none existed. He makes the case that owning your background instead of hiding it is what separates the people who break through from the ones who stay stuck.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why opportunity has to be created, not waited for
How to spot the idea everyone else is too "expert" to see
What it takes to grow from pioneer to settler to purposeful leader
Stop waiting for someone to hand you an opportunity and go create your own.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:59) Hunger Is the Antidote to Fear
(00:09:22) It's Not About How Smart You Are
(00:14:28) Judy and the Power of Partnership
(00:23:10) Pioneers, Settlers, and Mentorship
(00:29:33) Act Like an Owner
(00:36:08) Earning Trust Before Earning a Title
(00:39:15) The Spark Behind Flamin' Hot Cheetos
(00:47:38) Calling the CEO Himself
(00:51:53) Walking Into the Big Presentation
(00:53:42) Finding the Courage to Stand Out
(01:02:02) Bringing the Story to the Big Screen
(01:05:33) What It Means to Be a Game Changer
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Links & Resources:
Flamin' Hot: The Incredible True Story of One Man's Rise from Janitor to Top Executive by Richard Montañez
Flamin' Hot (2023 film)
Eva Longoria
DeVon Franklin
Roger Enrico
Bob Iger
PepsiCo
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
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What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
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