Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

A career in surgery has a profound impact on those who practice the craft. High rates of poor mental health are well described but incompletely understood. One potential mechanism for advancing our understanding of surgeon well-being is studying surgeons' emotional experiences. Shame, a self-conscious emotion reflecting how an individual feels about themselves, could be a particularly powerful lens. In this series on shame in surgery, we explore what we know about shame in surgery and what shame can tell us about learning and working as surgeons.

In this second episode, we talk with Dr. ElAbd and Dr. Zammit about their study examining the relationship between shame-based learning, grit, and burnout across surgical specialties. Their findings highlight how grit may both protect against burnout and mediate whether residents go on to shame others. 
Host: Steven Thornton
Guests:
1.    Rawan ElAbd (Plastic Surgery Resident, McGill University)
2.    Dino Zammit (Assistant Professor of Plastic Surgery, McGill University)
Publications Discussed:
1.    ElAbd R, Pu L, Esmonde-White C, ElHawary H, Vorstenbosch J, Zammit D. Association of Grit and Shame Based Learning on Burnout in Surgical Training: A Single Institution Analysis. J Surg Educ. 2025 Sep;82(9):103583. doi: 10.1016/j.jsurg.2025.103583. Epub 2025 Jun 27. PMID: 40580606.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40580606/
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A career in surgery has a profound impact on those who practice the craft. High rates of poor mental health are well described but incompletely understood. One potential mechanism for advancing our understanding of surgeon well-being is studying surgeons’ emotional experiences. Shame, a self-conscious emotion reflecting how an individual feels about themselves, could be a particularly powerful lens. In this series on shame in surgery, we explore what we know about shame in surgery and what shame can tell us about learning and working as surgeons.
In this first episode, we talk with Dr. Will Bynum and Professor Luna Dolezal about how they understand shame in medicine, why it's so hard to see even when it's everywhere, and how developing what they call "shame competence" might be one of the most important steps we can take toward humanizing surgical training.
Host: Steven Thornton
Guests:

Will Bynum (Associate Professor of Family Medicine, Duke University)

Luna Dolezal (Professor of Philosphy and Medical Humanities, Exeter University)

Publications Discussed:

Dolezal L, Bynum W. Shame competence: addressing the effects of shame in health care. Lancet. 2024 Oct 19;404(10462):1514-1515. doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(24)02269-4. PMID: 39426826. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39426826/

The Nocturnists. Shame in Medicine: The Lost Forest [podcast series]. The Nocturnists; 2022. https://thenocturnists.org/shameinmedicine

Nguyen LN, Bynum WE 4th. When I Say…self-conscious emotions. Med Educ. 2021 Mar;55(3):291-292. doi: 10.1111/medu.14425. Epub 2020 Dec 23. PMID: 33289140. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33289140/

Tracy, J. L., Robins, R. W., & Tangney, J. P. (Eds.). (2007). The self-conscious emotions: Theory and research. The Guilford Press.

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Welcome back to the AI journal club! In this episode, we bring you a deep dive into a game-changing paper from The Lancet -- the MASAI study. This is the first randomized controlled trial to evaluate the use of artificial intelligence in breast cancer screening and we're so excited to discuss it.
We'll break down the study's impressive findings on interval cancer rates, sensitivity, and massive workload reductions for radiologists. Beyond the data, we'll tackle the big-picture questions and some sensational recent headlines. Are we deploying AI too fast? Or is it time to go faster? 
Hosts: 
- Ayman Ali, MD
Ayman Ali is a Behind the Knife fellow and general surgery PGY-4 at Duke Hospital in his academic development time where he focuses on data science, artificial intelligence, and surgery. 
- Ruchi Thanawala, MD: @Ruchi_TJ
Ruchi Thanawala is an Associate Professor of Informatics and Thoracic Surgery at Oregon Health and Science University (OHSU) and founder of Firefly, an AI-driven platform that is built for competency-based medical education. In addition, she is the Director of the Surgical Data and Decision Sciences Lab for the Department of Surgery at OHSU and Associate Program Director for the Clinical Informatics Sub-specialty Fellowship. 
- Phillip Jenkins, MD: @PhilJenkinsMD
Phil Jenkins is a general surgery PGY-4 at Oregon Health and Science University and a National Library of Medicine Post-Doctoral fellow pursuing a master’s in clinical informatics.
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Join the Johns Hopkins Thoracic Surgery Subspecialty team on this rapid research review revealing how investigative efforts have changed the way we view and use Veno-venous (VV) ECMO therapy in the pre-lung transplant patient population working to avoid ventilator dependence and the associated morbidity while facilitating continued ambulation and preoperative optimization. 
Hosts:
- Dr. Alfred J. Casillan, MD, PhD
Attending Thoracic Surgeon 
Johns Hopkins Hospital 
- Kyla Rakoczy, MD 
Johns Hopkins General Surgery Resident
References:
Awake ECMO as Bridge to Lung Transplantation Fuehner T, Kuehn C, Hadem J, Wiesner O, Gottlieb J, Tudorache I, et al. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation in awake patients as bridge to lung transplantation. American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine. 2012;185(7):763–768. PMID: 22268135 Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22268135/

Predictors of Successful ECMO Bridging Tipograf Y, Salna M, Minko E, Grogan EL, Sonett JR, Bacchetta MD. Outcomes of extracorporeal membrane oxygenation as a bridge to lung transplantation. Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 2019;107(5):1456–1463. PMID: 30790550 Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30790550/

Intubation Status and ECMO Bridging Outcomes Zhou AL, Jennings MR, Akbar AF, et al. Utilization and outcomes of nonintubated extracorporeal membrane oxygenation as a bridge to lung transplant. Journal of Heart and Lung Transplantation. 2025;44(4):661–669. PMID: 39486773 Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39486773/

ECMO Duration and Waitlist Mortality Shou BL, Kalra A, Zhou AL, et al. Impact of extracorporeal membrane oxygenation bridging duration on lung transplant outcomes. Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 2024;118(2):496–503. PMID: 38740080 Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38740080/

Mechanical Ventilation as a Risk Marker Mason DP, Thuita L, Alster JM, Murthy SC, Budev MM, Mehta AC, et al. Lung transplantation in recipients requiring mechanical ventilation: outcomes and risk factors. Journal of Thoracic and Cardiovascular Surgery. 2010;139(1):114–119. PMID: 19931096 Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19931096/

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Welcome back to Behind the Knife with Cody, Patrick, Jason, and Ayman. Today, we are tackling a defining professional ritual for every surgical trainee: the Morbidity and Mortality (M&M) Conference. We are providing a practical roadmap to help you build clear, high-quality presentations that facilitate real learning for the entire room. Whether you are a junior resident preparing for your first case or an attending looking to moderate effectively, this episode covers exactly what to include, what to leave out, and how to properly frame a complication.
Hosts:

Cody Mullens, MD

Patrick Georgoff, MD

Jason Bingham, MD

Ayman Ali, MD

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