692: Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality & Rediscovering Confession with Jamin Goggin
A recent article tries to explain why so many politically active Christians behave unchristianly in the public square by differentiating “vertical” and “horizontal” sources of morality. The Holy Post crew examines the argument and finds it weak. Has MAGA ignited a revival in the U.S.? David French says we may be confusing a political revolution for a spiritual revival. Jamin Goggin joins Skye to discuss recovering the practice of confession in our churches. Goggin says it should start with pastors. Also this week—man does not live by 1200-year-old bread alone. 0:00 - Show Starts 2:59 - Check out the After Party’s free 6-week video course, the companion book, a workshop version of the content, or their new worship album with The Porter’s Gate. https://redeemingbabel.org/the-after-party/free-course2/?utm_source=TPO&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=TheHolyPost&utm_term=Fall2025 4:25 - Sponsor - AG1 - Get a free welcome kit (worth $75) when you sign up here - drinkag1.com/holypost 5:49 - No Kings Protest 10:15 - Image of Christ found in 1200 year old bread 14:56 - Revival or Revolution? 26:38 - Vertical morality vs Horizontal morality 41:55 - The Daily Wire critiques Skye 46:22 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Head on over to policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to compare life insurance quotes and get the coverage you need. 47:35 - Sponsor - World Relief - Download your free set of conversation cards from World Relief today at worldrelief.org/holypost 49:52 - Interview with Jamin Goggin Pastoral Confessions: The Healing Path to Faithful Ministry by Jamin Goggin https://amzn.to/4hpofnN 1:25:52 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: 1,200-year-old loaf of bread with image of Christ unearthed in astonishing find https://nypost.com/2025/10/19/science/1200-year-old-bread-with-jesus-christ-image-found-by-archaeologists/?utm_medium=social&sr_share=facebook&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawNi-xJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETA0YmZZOFBLMVUza3hKUjRHAR6thrb2r4iIMQPMZyf1x_ZHKvwAdV2kC0OeKNK27EbPh_Dl_jEB8dR96nj73Q_aem_3uAmjM1LsHe35z6sj6GkHw What Drives MAGA Christians' Un-Christian Actions? Experts Say It Comes Down To This. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vertical-morality-maga-christians_l_68dc8386e4b0b11989f00fb8 Something Is Stirring in Christian America, and It’s Making Me Nervous https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/opinion/christianity-charlie-kirk-revolution-revival.html Other Resources: Pastoral Confessions: The Healing Path to Faithful Ministry by Jamin Goggin https://amzn.to/4hpofnN The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It https://amzn.to/4neWFL6 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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691: The Antichrist, Illiberalism, & Why Gen Z Accepts Political Violence with Elizabeth Neumann
In a series of invitation-only, off-the-record lectures about Christianity, technology billionaire Peter Thiel said the antichrist is trying to regulate technology and billionaires. Which raises the question—Why do we always remake Christ in our image and the antichrist in our enemies’? Gen Z is making conservative Christianity more angry, intolerant, and illiberal. What’s fueling the younger generation's interest in religious fundamentalism? Counter-terrorism expert Elizabeth Neumann is back to discuss the rising acceptance of political violence among young adults and why she expects things to get worse before they get better. Also this week—the fishy origin of fingers. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/141225776/ The World Born in You: Letter Five: https://www.patreon.com/posts/141230250/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:05 - Theme Song 3:13 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 4:24 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to https://www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 5:45 - Fingers are Fish Butts? 9:23 Peter Thiel’s Antichrist Fixation 23:51 - Conservative Christian Gen Z 39:24 - Black-and-White Internet Narratives 48:09 - Swiss Chocolate! 50:08 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 51:13 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 52:13 - Sponsor - Credible Witness - In a world where the church’s credibility is in question, we share stories that still bear witness to Christ’s radical love, resilient hope, and transforming justice: https://bit.ly/42rh6wC 53:15 - Interview 55:29 - Belief Systems and Violence 1:03:24 - Young People and Violence 1:11:16 - Is Violence a Reflection of Lack of Power? 1:17:15 - Trusting Jesus Instead of Violence 1:26:04 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Peter Thiel and the Antichrist: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/13/antichrist-peter-thiel-michigan Are Fingers Just Long Butts? https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/human-finger-regulatory-genes-originally-fish-cloaca-butt Gen Z Conservatives: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/13/opinion/gen-z-conservative-christianity.html Other Resources: Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
For the first time ever, the U.K. has appointed a woman as the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the global Anglican Communion. Kaitlyn, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss the implications of appointment and how Anglicans use “flying bishops” to maintain unity over divisive theological issues. Are there lessons here for other divided Christian communities? The latest “State of Theology” report shows a shocking number of evangelicals hold contradictory beliefs. Why are evangelical churches so bad at teaching the Bible and theology? Kaitlyn talks with A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta, co-authors of “Slow Theology,” about how our cultural addiction to speed and quick answers actually fuels spiritual disillusionment and deconstruction. Also this week—new data shows why most female animals outlive males. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/140691242/ The World Born in You Chapter 5 is out now! https://www.patreon.com/posts/world-born-in-5-140671195 0:00 - Show Starts 3:08 - Theme Song 3:30 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 15% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 4:40 - Sponsor - AG1 - Get the AG1 welcome pack when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 6:11 - Men Die Sooner Than Women! 14:22 - Women Can Be Archbishops? 36:15 - Why Don’t Evangelicals Know Theology? 52:49 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 53:50 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 55:55 - Interview 56:17 - Why Slow Theology? 59:50 - Deconstruction as Chemotherapy 1:13:17 - Orthodoxy for Power Rather Than Obedience 1:27:02 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Why Women Live Longer: https://www.mpg.de/25470066/0926-evan-why-women-live-longer-than-men-150495-x Anglican Church Tension Over Woman as New Archbishop: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/10/archbishop-of-canterbury-anglican-church-conservative-divides/ Study Shows Evangelicals Don’t Know Theology: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/10/state-of-theology-evangelicals-confused-conflicted-belief/ Other Resources: Slow Theology: Eight Practices for Resilient Faith in a Turbulent World (A Guide to Deep Faith in Our Busy Modern Lives) by A. J. Swoboda and Nijay K. Gupta: https://a.co/d/iCKFGjf Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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689: The Rapture, Repentance, & Redefining the Good Life with Grace Hamman
After a South African pastor claimed that Christ would come for his church on September 23, TikTok became rapture obsessed. Mike Erre joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss our ongoing fixation with this bad theology, why people get caught up in rapture predictions, and how it damages the credibility of the faith. Kaitlyn talks to Medieval scholar, Grace Hamman, about her new book, “Asks of Old Paths.” Hamman says Medieval literature is rich in wisdom for modern Christians on how to define a good life, using the language of virtues and vices. Also this week—a secular writer examines the benefit of confession and repentance, which makes us wonder why so few Christians practice it. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/140119354/ 0:00 - Show Starts 2:10 - Theme Song 2:32 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com/HOLYPOST 3:39 - Sponsor - Poncho - If you’ve been looking for the perfect shirt—something breathable, fits great, feels even better, and stands out in a good way—give Poncho a try. Get $10 off your first order by using this link: https://www.ponchooutdoors.com/holypost 5:20 - The Rapture’s a Tiktok trend? 12:52 - Why’s The Rapture so Popular? 32:04 - Psychology and Repentance 41:00 - Self-Interest and Righteousness 54:22 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 55:30 - Sponsor - Rooted Ministry - A gospel-centered conference this October for youth, children’s, and family ministry! Check it out at https://rootedministry.com/conference/ 56:26 - Interview 58:05 - Why is Medieval poetry relevant? 1:05:22 - Virtues and Vices 1:16:20 - What’s a Vice We Misunderstand? 1:27:02 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Rapture Last Week! https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/jadegomez510/the-rapture-2025-tiktok Psychological Value of Repentance https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/21/briefing/the-psychological-value-of-repentance.html Other Resources: Ask of Old Paths: Medieval Virtues and Vices for a Whole and Holy Life by Grace Hamman: https://a.co/d/6WRgTtu Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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688: The MAGA Contradiction & Educational Injustice with Terence Lester
The memorial service for Charlie Kirk revealed a deep contradiction with the MAGA movement. Kirk’s widow was cheered when she forgave his assassin and modeled Jesus’ command to love your enemies. But the crowd also cheered when Stephen Miller and President Trump dehumanized their opponents and expressed hatred for their enemies. Esau McCaulley joins Phil and Skye to discuss the tension between Christian love and pagan power. Also this week, Dr. Terence Lester tells his inspiring story in his new book, “From Dropout to Doctorate,” and how he’s working both spiritually and systemically to reform education. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/139584724/ Cotton Candy Debate? https://www.patreon.com/posts/my-hill-to-die-139484708 0:00 - Show Starts 3:00 - Theme Song 3:21 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 4:35 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 7:35 - Charlie Kirk’s Mixed Memorial Service 11:56 - Christlike Responses 22:53 - Two MAGAs 31:57 - Black Christians Grapple with Kirk’s Legacy 42:50 - Sponsor - World Relief - Join The Path as a monthly partner with World Relief! https://www.worldrelief.org/holypost 44:00 - The After Party - What’s discipling you? Reimagine political engagement through the lens of scripture and neighbor love with the free Redeeming Babble course today - https://redeemingbabel.org/the-after-party/free-course2/?utm_source=TPO&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=TheHolyPost&utm_term=Fall2025 45:07 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 46:05 - Interview 47:46 - How Poverty Causes Trauma 52:47 - The Headstart People Don’t Get 1:01:48 - The Sick, Sin, and System Narratives 1:14:33 - How He Decided Not to Quite 1:25:18 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Bulwark Article on Two Speeches at the Memorial: https://www.thebulwark.com/i/174243794/a-tale-of-two-speeches Black Christians Confront Charlie Kirk’s Religious Legacy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/22/charlie-kirk-black-christians/ Other Resources: From Dropout to Doctorate: Breaking the Chains of Educational Injustice by Terence Lester: https://a.co/d/itUHu8I Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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