Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I preview the coming wave of Q2 earnings while highlighting the extraordinary growth reshaping cloud computing.

Highlights

00:03 — We're on the verge of having a lot of calendar Q2 financial results released, so just in advance of that, I wanted to offer a snapshot of where things stand now regarding the world's hottest cloud and AI vendors. Right now, we've got Palantir in the number one spot, Google Cloud number two, Oracle number three.

00:42 — I've also got a chart in there showing backlog, or RPO, which is future booked business that's fully contracted, fully committed, among the four hyperscalers that now totals over $2 trillion. But in the here and now, here's where it stands for the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies. Palantir is in the number one spot for Q1.

01:56 — We've got Microsoft with an enormous performance here: 29% growth and $54.5 billion in quarterly cloud revenue. AWS had a very strong quarter: 28% growth and $37.6 billion in revenue. Salesforce is in the number nine spot with 13% growth, while OpenAI remains an estimate because it is not yet publicly traded.

03:05 — You know, you see some of these numbers, and as I referred to a moment ago about the backlog numbers, which are truly just mind-bending, we become immune to being amazed by the size and the volume here. I do not throw around the phrase "the greatest growth market the world has ever known" lightly.

03:55 — The former applications companies are now racing to become agentic companies and data companies. Huge change and transformation within the Cloud Wars Top 10 is helping customers participate in, succeed in, and potentially thrive in the AI economy. I don't expect any massive changes in this lineup, but the growth numbers will be very interesting over the next few weeks.

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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, Founder and CEO of Cloud Wars, is joined by Cedric Wells, IT leader and former Senior Manager of Infrastructure and Operations at Gorilla Glue. Together, they explore how AI is reshaping IT leadership, software development, governance, and enterprise transformation. Wells shares why continuous learning, balancing strategic vision with execution, and maintaining strong security and data governance will define successful organizations in the AI Era. Their conversation also reflects many of the leadership themes that attendees explored at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA.

Key Takeaways

Growth mindset is becoming the most valuable IT skill. Wells believes technical expertise alone is no longer enough. The speed of AI innovation requires professionals at every level to continuously refresh their knowledge and remain adaptable. He explains that technologies evolve so rapidly that learning has become a permanent responsibility rather than a periodic exercise. As Wells notes, "Having a mindset that's really around learning as much as I can as things are changing" is essential. He also reminds listeners, "It's changing so fast," making curiosity and adaptability foundational qualities for future IT leaders.

AI enhances leadership — but doesn't replace technical understanding. Wells argues that AI is helping close the gap between technical specialists and business leaders, allowing executives to understand complex technologies more quickly. However, leaders still need enough technical context to ask intelligent questions and make informed decisions. As he explains, "Being able to really as a leader leverage AI as much as possible" creates significant advantages. He also emphasizes that "bridging that gap with your leadership skills and leveraging AI on the technical side" will define successful IT leadership moving forward.

Governance and security are becoming even more important. Throughout the conversation, Wells repeatedly emphasizes that AI initiatives require close collaboration between infrastructure, information security, governance, and data teams. Without proper oversight, organizations risk exposing sensitive information, creating compliance issues, or building unreliable AI systems. Wells reminds listeners that "It's very important to make sure that those two departments are aligned" and warns that "Employees are doing it whether or not you like it," making proactive governance and secure enablement far more effective than restrictive policies alone.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why Salesforce's new Help Agent represents a major shift toward performance-based enterprise AI.

Highlights

00:03 — Salesforce is launching the Agentforce Help Agent, a pre-built AI customer service agent that customers can deploy in a matter of minutes. It's designed as an alternative to custom-built agents, connecting to existing Salesforce knowledge articles and support content, which means only minimal configuration is required.

00:23 — I'm going to walk you through the features of this new agent before getting to the part I'm most excited about, and I think you will be too. The agent was built on the Agentforce platform and uses the Salesforce Data Cloud and CRM data for context, incorporating the responsible use and governance policies there too.

00:43 — It delivers enterprise-grade customer support by answering customer questions, troubleshooting issues, escalating complex cases to a human support agent. Salesforce validated the agent internally before the launch, and the company has reported that its own Help Agent handled 4.3 million customer conversations and resolved around 70% of inquiries autonomously, really showcasing its effectiveness.

01:16 — Here's the kicker: the new Help Agent operates on a resolution-based pricing model. This means that customers are only charged when the agent successfully resolves a customer's issue. There's no charge if the conversation is handed off to a human agent before resolution, and this approach is quite groundbreaking. In many ways, Salesforce is testing a new pricing model for enterprise AI.

01:50 — From an AI in the workplace perspective, this agent operates on a performance-based pricing scenario, similar to how a gig worker is paid for successful tasks completed, right? So, Salesforce is not the first company to use outcome-based pricing for software, but bringing it to Agentforce and pushing it further into enterprise AI is remarkable stuff and a great step forward from Salesforce.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why hyperscalers are rewriting the rules of deal-making to build the next generation of AI infrastructure.

Highlights

00:01 — We are seeing the beginnings here of an incredible round of innovation, not just in technology, but in deal-making, partnerships, alliances, and financing, all by the hyperscalers trying to meet this insatiable AI demand. We're seeing these companies undertake some very innovative, bold, distinctive new strategies to build the capability and capacity to get these AI data centers built out to meet this insatiable demand.

00:49 — Google Cloud did a joint venture with Blackstone, in which Blackstone invested $5 billion into the joint venture. We have seen Amazon issue a series of debt and bond offerings totaling over $100 billion. AWS has said that in calendar year 2026 it will spend $200 billion on CapEx, most of which is going into AI data centers. Oracle announced $50 billion in debt and equity financing.

01:57 — This funding, this raising of funds to build out the data centers, is because there is, among these hyperscalers, over $2 trillion in committed contracted business. While Oracle right now is the smallest by revenue of the hyperscalers, it has the largest backlog, and in order to meet that, it has to spend a lot of money to build the capacity.

02:46 — Microsoft is using proceeds from its brilliant early relationship with OpenAI to help secure some of the funding. Under a newly restructured agreement between the two companies, Microsoft now will receive 20% of OpenAI revenues for the next few years. Plus, Microsoft has a huge ownership stake in OpenAI.

04:17 — Remarkable things are going on here as the technology buildout by all these companies has helped create this incredible demand. What we're seeing now is extraordinary efforts by the hyperscalers to combine with other companies, move into different industries, and do everything possible — at staggering expense — to meet this insatiable customer demand for AI.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how reasoning-focused AI will strengthen SAP Joule agents with enterprise-grade security and governance.

Highlights

00:03 — SAP has partnered with Giotto.ai to explore the integration of Giotto.ai's AI reasoning capabilities into SAP Joule agents. Now, for some background, Giotto.ai is a Swiss AI company that has developed compact, reasoning-focused AI models designed for deployment in secure and controlled enterprise environments.

00:25 — Quick recap here: reasoning-focused AI models are designed not just to generate answers, but to really work through problems in a more structured and logical way before giving a response. The partnership will initially focus on pilot projects aimed at enhancing SAP Joule agents in enterprise scenarios that require structured reasoning, reliability, and integration with enterprise data.

00:50 — The collaboration will also serve as an opportunity for Giotto.ai to validate its technology in demanding real-world business environments. According to CEO Aldo Podestà, the partnership will demonstrate the practical value of the company's reasoning-focused models in an enterprise setting.

01:10 — For SAP, the collaboration provides an opportunity to explore how reasoning-focused AI can enhance its enterprise agents, particularly in use cases that require dependable decision support and close integration with the business data processes available there.

01:29 — For SAP customers, the partnership could result in AI agents that provide more reliable recommendations, better decision support, and greater automation of more complex business processes, critically, and this is the USP of Giotto .ai critically, while maintaining enterprise-grade security and governance.

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