Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans

Key Takeaways

Wellness-focused consumers are flooded with health data from wearable health tech and portals but lack the time and expertise to interpret what it actually means.

To combat this, Copilot Health securely unifies data from hospitals, labs, and wearables to detect early health patterns and guide wellness decisions, making advanced medical insight accessible to everyone.

Because hallucinations are dangerous in healthcare, Microsoft mitigated risk by embedding physician oversight into Copilot Health’s training and governance. Specifically, Microsoft's multi-agent orchestration layer of Copilot Health scored 85% when diagnosing 304 complex medical cases, four times better than experienced physicians did.

At a broader level, AI-driven health systems promise enterprise cost savings and productivity gains while signaling a shift toward more human-like agents, making it paramount that innovation is matched with equally strong security.

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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how AI and data access are accelerating unprecedented cooperation among cloud leaders.

Highlights

00:03 — It's been two and a half years now since that momentous interview featuring Satya Nadella and Larry Ellison talking about their partnership to do multi-cloud between Oracle and Microsoft. And in some ways, I regard this as the multi-cloud miracle, because we've accepted it.

01:10 — It's opening up more ways in which competing tech vendors are going to work together to drive better benefits, better outcomes for customers. So, I had a very interesting interview with Nathan Thomas, Senior Vice President for Product Marketing at Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, where he heads up the multi-cloud effort. And I wanted to talk to him about the benefits.

02:24 — I want to also go back quickly and touch on what Nadella and Ellison talked about two and a half years ago. One of Ellison's first points, he said, this just makes it easier for customers, and they get the benefits of both Microsoft's top technology and Oracle's top technology optimized to work together.

03:36 — At the time, he said, OpenAI, take it to where the data is. So two and a half years ago, Nadella was very keen on this subject of how this multi-cloud partnership between Oracle and Microsoft would benefit the early days of the AI movement.

04:44 — And when you put it in terms of business outcomes, then these competitive things that are behind the scenes matter less and less. So this is an interesting time. I hope we'll see more of this.

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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Nathan Thomas, Senior Vice President of Product Management for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, about the explosive growth and transformative potential of Oracle’s multi-cloud database strategy. Thomas explains how Oracle is enabling customers to run mission-critical databases across AWS, Microsoft Azure, and Google Cloud while unlocking new AI-driven innovation. Their discussion dives into how multi-cloud is reshaping enterprise mindsets, accelerating cloud migrations, and helping organizations fully leverage their data for next-generation applications and agentic AI.

Multi-Cloud Momentum

The Big Themes:

Multi-Cloud Demand Explodes: Oracle’s multi-cloud database is seeing massive demand, driven by customers wanting to run Oracle workloads in the same cloud environments as their applications. This shift eliminates friction between systems. The surge is amplified by AI, as organizations look to connect their data with services like Gemini, Bedrock, and Copilot. The reported 500%+ growth reflects not just technical appeal but a fundamental change in how enterprises think about infrastructure.

AI Is the Growth Catalyst: Artificial intelligence is accelerating multi-cloud adoption at an unprecedented pace. Customers want their data co-located with AI tools and pipelines, enabling faster insights and innovation. Instead of moving data across environments with latency constraints, multi-cloud lets organizations bring AI to their data. This creates a powerful feedback loop where better access drives more experimentation and faster results.

New Builders, New Energy: The adoption of multi-cloud is bringing in a new generation of developers and AI-focused professionals. These users are actively engaging with enterprise data to build innovative applications and AI-driven solutions. This marks a shift from traditional, tightly controlled database environments to more dynamic, accessible platforms. Organizations are no longer treating their data as static assets, they’re using it as a foundation for continuous innovation and competitive advantage.

The Big Quote: “We hear from customers a lot that they struggle with what I would call the tyranny of choice. There's just way too many options, way too complicated."

More from Nathan Thomas and Oracle:

Connect with Nathan on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle and multi-cloud.

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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss the significant leadership changes at Oracle and what they signal for the company’s future.

Highlights

00:03 — One of the things that has become clear over the last several months is that there are big changes taking place at the top of Oracle. I wanted to go into that a little bit, particularly how this is all leading up to what is an excellent new adventure for company co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison.

00:21 — I think it's a remarkable time here. Now, clearly, I’m not saying that Larry Ellison is stepping aside. I mean, six months ago, we saw longtime CEO Safra Katz move from CEO. She elected to move to the new position of executive vice chairman. In those six months, we've also seen the ascendancy of new CEOs, Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk.

01:09 — Again, this is not about Larry Ellison leaving. I think the new adventure he has was really brought into clear light on the March 10 fiscal Q3 earnings call for Oracle, when there was no opening statement by Larry Ellison. I mean, that's something he's done for the last 150, 160 earnings calls.

01:50 — Then, in the Q&A session on that March 10 earnings call, there were seven questions asked. None of them was aimed at Larry Ellison. They were all aimed at Magouyrk and Sicilia. After the final question, he added some thoughts to what Mike Sicilia had said. His point there is to say these are the new leaders of Oracle, the people helping now to set the direction, execute it, and make sure we're going in the right way.

02:40 — The new CEOs are doing a great job. In my estimation, the way they handled themselves in the answers on the March 10 earnings call was terrific. They were very, very, very persuasive, impressive, and compelling. So we can say this is the end of an era, but I think another way to look at it is that it's the beginning of a new era for Oracle.

04:05 — New ideas, speed, the ability to do things that customers haven't ever done before — and Sicilia and Magouyrk clearly have won the full confidence of Larry Ellison and Safra Catz, who believe now, as Ellison said on that March 10 earnings call, Oracle's future is bright.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Health 100 signals a major shift toward AI-powered, patient-centric healthcare ecosystems.

Highlights

00:03 —Google Cloud has partnered with CVS Health to launch an AI-driven health data platform called Health 100. The platform unifies patient data from a variety of sources, enabling more streamlined health management. CVS Health, which operates both an insurer and a pharmacy retailer, is embracing the spirit of the AI revolutions.

00:36 — Health 100 will connect benefit managers, pharmacies, healthcare providers, and digital health systems into a single platform, regardless of the companies supplying them. And there's more details coming, but what we know so far is that Health 100 will tap built-in AI and generative AI to act as an always-on personal healthcare partner.

01:00 — It will deliver care options faster, be operated on mobile, and interact visually and through voice interactions. Patient data will be protected through Google Cloud security and compliance infrastructure. Now, this is just the latest in a series of partnerships through which Google Cloud is enabling companies to innovate in the healthcare space.

01:24 — Google Cloud is really standing out as a leader now, I think, in this area, focusing on agentic AI in the healthcare space. Now, while agents have been making significant strides in various business sectors and industries, it's really fascinating for me to see the momentum shifting into healthcare.

02:00 — Now we're talking about agentic workflows for patients driven by their own data. This progress is only possible with stringent governance and compliance, and as Google Cloud describes its infrastructure security as “secure by default,” companies are certainly supporting this new era of healthcare from solid foundations.

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