Future of HR

How can HR and Finance build the business together?

Why can't finance achieve true value creation without HR's knowledge and expertise?

My guest on this episode is Christian Wattig, Director of the Wharton FP&A Program and Founder of Inside FP&A

During our conversation Christian and I discuss:

Why the scorekeeper mindset keeps finance and HR stuck in the back office
How challenging assumptions helps leaders think rather than just slowing them down
The four stages of finance maturity, from data to proactive value creation, and how the same model maps onto HR
How to forecast humans, agents, and gig workers together, and why tokens are only about a third of AI's true cost
Why ROI is the wrong tool for many HR programs and what to do instead

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How can you build business acumen without owning a P&L?
Why is developing your business acumen within your control?

My guest on this episode is Rose Velez-Smith, CHRO, DoubleVerify

During our conversation Rose and I discuss:

Why stepping out of HR to be in the business can be the single best thing you do for your career.
How to start every executive conversation with business priorities first, then ask what talent outcomes are needed to enable them.
Why talent doesn't exist separate from business strategy.
How to choose your next role by evaluating who you'll become because of it.
Why AI reshapes work rather than replacing it, and why in the future we will design jobs around judgment, creativity, and relationships.

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can you create an HR Business Partner Center of Excellence?

Why does HR need to shift from owning programs to owning business outcomes?

My guest on this episode is Christina Schelling, SVP, Human Resources, Verizon

During our conversation Christina and I discuss:

Why naming the HRBP group a Center of Excellence gives partners community, shared goals, and focused development.
How the HR business partner role is evolving to be more strategic.
How Verizon defined HRBP success with four shared metrics aligned to their strategy.
Why HRBPs don't need to be experts in everything, and how COE partners make them stronger.
How Verizon partnered with their HR tech vendors co-create innovative AI talent solutions.

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

Why is the single biggest barrier to having power…ourselves?

How can you, as an HR professional step into your power?

My guest on this episode is Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Graduate School of Business, Stanford University and Author of 16 books including his latest one the “7 Rules of Power”:

During our conversation Jeffrey and I discuss:

Why he believes the single biggest barrier to having power is ourselves
Why it is important that we own and tell our story, not let others tell it for us
Why he believes that being authentic and/or modest is terrible leadership advice Why networking is a super power and how to do it well
Why he believes HR needs to raise the bar and step into their power
His advice on how to deal with difficult leaders in positions of power

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HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.

Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can you turn HR data into insights that drive decisions?

Why do leaders make decisions based on their experience and instinct, not just data?

My guest on this episode is Morgan Depenbusch, Data Storytelling & Influence Expert

During our conversation Morgan and I discuss:

How to tell what data is interesting from what data is decision relevant
Why one reason to say no can beat twenty reasons to say yes
Why you should see yourself as the guide and the leader as the hero
How to surface a leader's real objection before the meeting and name it first
Why AI gives HR more dashboards and signals but not more influence

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.