The Find Out Podcast

A former Anthropic safety researcher put the odds of AI wiping out humanity in the next ten years at 10%. Days later Anthropic announced a model too good at hacking to release, half the industry begged Washington to regulate them, and Trump said the only regulation we need is a president with a high IQ.Adam Conner, VP of technology policy at the Center for American Progress, gives us his own read on that number and explains why the damage short of extinction is the part nobody's planning for. Also: how Trump quietly made himself the man who decides which AI models get released, what happens to the economy when the bubble pops, and the campaign plank we're stealing on air. Robots will not fire you.

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Democrats are probably taking back the House, and their announced plan is to undo what Trump did and then stop. Rich and Luke argue they should send him single-payer, a $20 minimum wage, and universal pre-K instead, force him to veto all of it, and run on that. Plus the $45,000 cash Christmas gifts Trump handed three young staffers, the 9/11 story he keeps rewriting, and a year without Charlie Kirk.

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David Pakman's new book, Pay Attention, argues that nuance loses, and he brings the receipts: the platforms reward fear, anger, and messages short enough for a bumper sticker, which happens to be the right's native language. Say "the vaccines are killing millions" and it travels. Explain what vaccines actually do and you've already lost the room.We get into why the left's infighting is a feature of the algorithm rather than a real split in the party, how conservatives often aren't disagreeing with our facts so much as never being served them, and why debate-bro marathons measure preparation instead of truth. Then it gets personal: David landed on the White House's media offenders list alongside Brian Tyler Cohen, and having grown up in the shadow of Argentina's dictatorship, he's not laughing it off. We close on 2028 and whether JD Vance is a real threat or a wet futon in a suit. Pay Attention is out now, with signed copies at DavidPakman.com/attention.
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This week is a real potpourri. The Lindsay Clancy case somehow convincing MAGA that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Sean Duffy going on television to explain that Sydney Sweeney will save the American birth rate. Why data centers are the only infrastructure this country can build quickly. Whether AI companies are chasing revenue or just power. And last up, a USPS whistleblower who says Trump loyalists kept building a mail-in ballot system after a federal judge told them to stop. It’s been a busy week.
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Tim, Luke, and Rich talk with Brian Poindexter about what nineteen years in the iron workers taught him: why right-to-work states stay poor, why the no-tax-on-tips promise turned into a rounding error come tax season, and how blanket tariffs are driving up input costs for farmers while private equity waits in the wings to buy the land. He also explains why the allegations against Miller shook his district to its core, and what it says about a justice system where the wealthy and well connected get one set of rules and everybody else gets another.Poindexter says he didn't get into this race because of Miller's personal life. He got in because Washington hasn't heard from anybody who works for a living in a very long time.More at PoindexterForCongress.com
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