Cathie Wood is placing some of the boldest bets in investing history, spanning AI, robotaxis, brain chips, crypto, and even space. In this episode of Bankless, the ARK Invest CEO joins Chief Futurist Brett Winton to break down her five highest-conviction technologies - opportunities she believes could unlock over $20 trillion in enterprise value.
You’ll hear why Elon Musk’s empire is at the center of it all, how Tesla’s robotaxis could become the biggest AI project on Earth, and why Neuralink, Starship, and stablecoins are converging to spark a new era of productivity and exponential growth.
This isn’t just tech optimism - it’s Cathie Wood’s vision for the future of innovation.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
5:05 Elon Musk and the Data Flywheel
11:57 The Power of Wright’s Law
19:27 Forecasting AI’s Trillion-Dollar Impact
23:35 Why ARK Owns xAI, OpenAI, and Anthropic
29:04 Google and Apple’s AI Blindspots
35:52 Why X Merged with xAI
44:15 Robotaxis: The Biggest AI Project on Earth
52:02 Robo GDP: AI’s Real-World Economic Boost
55:31 Tesla’s Scaling Advantage
1:01:27 The Humanoid Opportunity
1:10:42 Neuralink: AI, Enhanced
1:15:34 Starlink & SpaceX: The $2.5T Bet
1:22:01 Crypto’s Stablecoin Supercycle
1:33:18 Macro & Trump’s Strategy
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RESOURCES
Cathie Wood
https://x.com/CathieDWood
Brett Winton
https://x.com/wintonARK
Ark’s SpaceX Report
https://www.ark-invest.com/articles/valuation-models/ark-expected-value-spacex-2030
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1:37:32
ROLLUP: Robinhood's Announcement Sets off Stock Tokens Frenzy
Welcome to the Weekly Rollup, where we cover the latest news in crypto.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro and EthCC
5:30 MARKETS
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin
7:30 Solana ETF
https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1940436515798348195
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/V7YvdegA/?symbol=CBOE%3ASSK
12:20 MACRO
https://x.com/TheStalwart/status/1940749966542360844
https://x.com/HadickM/status/1940754843838341559
https://imgur.com/uBt5LkP
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1939684213672038840
https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-announce-as-next-fed-chair
19:00 The Big Beautiful Bill
https://polymarket.com/event/reconciliation-bill-passed-by?tid=1751541176019
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-big-beautiful-bill-clears-final-hurdle-before-house-wide-vote
https://x.com/SenLummis/status/1939730903045218395
23:00 Robinhood Chain and Tokenized Stocks
https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1939725345772470671
https://x.com/RobinhoodApp/status/1939701274217460047
https://x.com/BanklessHQ/status/1940054189914145198
https://x.com/RobinhoodApp/status/1939706469966135442
https://x.com/RobinhoodApp_EU/status/1939709899690098770
https://x.com/vladtenev/status/1939713633392480417
https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1940502391037874606
https://x.com/vladtenev/status/1940547859532612028
https://x.com/0xren_cf/status/1940077604939129253
https://x.com/vladtenev/status/1940308314144883074
https://x.com/BanklessHQ/status/1940468665235001656
https://x.com/RobinhoodApp/status/1939703096168362170
https://x.com/hosseeb/status/1940050920483823819
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/1CDu50yK/?symbol=NASDAQ%3AHOOD
https://x.com/iamDCinvestor/status/1939711492397703307
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6XTj2K0YAtXIgYPpGrK0xg?si=ef33fb6a0e394acd
https://backed.fi/news-updates/xstocks-are-going-live-tokenized-stocks-for-the-defi-era
https://x.com/0xMert_/status/1939761568029225224
https://x.com/gemini/status/1938688845597577591?s=46&t=2ZINVXJQKx6xO_6Wiiu_2g
https://thedefiant.io/news/tradfi-and-fintech/dinari-wins-first-u-s-broker-dealer-license-tokenized-stocks-667afe25
https://sbt.dinari.com/tokens?tokenSymbol=AAPL.d
https://x.com/HadickM/status/1940018046833201168
https://www.theblock.co/post/360853/financial-industry-group-pushes-back-on-tokenized-equities-urges-sec-to-reject-crypto-firms-exemptions
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/07/02/sec-chairman-paul-atkins-on-regulating-private-markets-rise-of-stock-tokenization.html
47:20 Tom Lee Bullish ETH
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/V7YvdegA/?symbol=AMEX%3ABMNR
https://x.com/CNBC/status/1939658101193322537
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1939686608254460283
https://x.com/sharplinkgaming/status/1940078442579644420
53:50 NEWS
https://x.com/tier10k/status/1940133141546770454
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1940385699653652500
https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1940388827392344261
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1940480126925656343
https://www.youtube.com/live/zo72TWXrc3Y
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1:03:14
Robinhood vs. Coinbase: Who Wins the Future of Finance? | David Rodriguez & Omar Kanji
David from Blockworks and Omar from Dragonfly join the show to debate Coinbase vs Robinhood, two companies racing to become the dominant financial super app. We break down their business models, growth strategies, tokenized asset plays, and how each is approaching crypto, equities, and infrastructure. Will Robinhood’s slick UX and expanding product suite win the next generation? Or will Coinbase’s onchain infra and stablecoin moat prove unbeatable?
Omar & Dragonfly
https://x.com/TheOneandOmsy
https://x.com/Dragonfly_xyz
David & Blockworks
https://x.com/EffortCapital
https://x.com/BlockworksAdv
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
2:37 Understanding Coinbase
8:31 Coinbase B2B
13:39 Comparing Revenue, Valuation, & Infrastructure
23:12 Future Growth of Coinbase
28:14 Understanding Robinhood
38:22 Robinhood Competition
45:42 Robinhood 2021 Crisis Explained
48:14 Robinhood Bank
52:02 Tokenized Stocks & L2
55:32 Defending the Coinbase Moat
1:06:19 Forecasting Robinhood’s Future
1:11:08 Forecasting Coinbase’s Future
1:15:31 Closing & Disclaimers
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Crypto Markets Forever Stuck? Onchain Data Explained | Michael Nadeau’s Defi Report #2
Crypto prices seem stuck. Is that about to change?
Michael Nadeau of the DeFi Report returns to unpack what onchain data says about Bitcoin, ETH, and altcoins. We dive into why the market may be coiling beneath the surface, whether altcoins are due for a “hate rally,” and how valuation metrics reveal surprising accumulation trends. Michael also shares his current portfolio moves, including high-beta bets like Pepe and ENA, and lays out the macro triggers that could spark the next leg up.
Michael Nadeau & The DeFi Report:
https://x.com/JustDeauIt
https://thedefireport.io
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
2:19 The HODLer's Fallacy: Rethinking Conviction in a Naturally Extractive Market
https://mirror.xyz/sreevanth.eth/6unQ_oX9sQFkvjPi3yehVi6M7Ak2t1V5hzyWYs9yUi4
7:03 BTC Onchain Data & Price Explanation
15:23 Altcoin Season Index
23:24 ETH & Solana Onchain Data
32:30 Beta Assets Bull Case
38:46 Ethena Memo
https://thedefireport.io/research/ethena-memo
51:14 Crypto Equities
55:45 Liquity & The Macro Setup
1:00:53 Michael’s Portfolio Today
1:02:31 How to Value an L1
https://thedefireport.io/research/how-do-you-value-an-l1
1:02:53 Quarterly Reports
1:04:40 Closing & Disclaimers
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1:05:22
Robinhood Announces Tokenized Stocks! LIVE with CEO Vlad Tenev, Johann Kerbrat, and AJ Warner
In this series of three interviews from Cannes, we host Vlad Tenev, CEO of Robinhood, Johann Kerbrat, GM of Crypto at Robinhood, and AJ Warner from Arbitrum to explore key announcements from their recent Token Summit. They discuss the introduction of tokenized stock options for private companies like SpaceX and OpenAI, aiming to democratize access for retail investors.
Vlad highlights Robinhood’s commitment to addressing investment inequities, while Johann shares insights on the technological challenges and their Layer 2 blockchain initiative facilitating 24/7 trading. They also navigate the regulatory landscape with the SEC and CFTC, envisioning a future where private shares become accessible and entrepreneurial capital raising is enhanced. The conversation wraps up with plans to improve user experience for new financial products in Robinhood’s evolving crypto offerings.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Interview with Vlad Tenev
21:00 Interview with Johann Kerbrat
37:30 Interview with AJ Warner
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RESOURCES
Vlad Tenev
https://x.com/vladtenev
Vlad’s Washington Post Op-Ed
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/investing-crypto-tech-robinhood-stock-market/
Johann Kerbrat
https://x.com/johannkerbrat
AJ Warner
https://x.com/ajwarner90
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