The Imperfects

Is climate anxiety affecting your decision to have kids?
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Joining us in the Vulnerabilitea House is Bri Lee; prolific author, advocate and change maker.
Answering the question, “what moment from your life are you grateful for that profoundly changed you?”, Bri talks about the research that lead her to the South Pole, and how she learnt to prioritise love above all else.
Bri asks the question to Hugh, Josh and Ryan, “what does it mean to live a good life, and what do we owe each other?”
This chat explores the philosophies of anti and pronatalism, whilst being grounded in examples from the guys’ and Bri’s life. An intentional and judgement free zone, this conversation delves into the morality of should’s and shouldn’ts, and what it means to do the right thing.
As Bri says, hope is something that you earn through action, and we are all feeling a bit more hopeful after this episode.

0:00 – A Bri-Lee-iant guest
9:42 – The Seed of The Idea
15:08 – What are you grateful for that profoundly changed you?
27:10 – Prioritising love
32:27 – Should I have kids?
41:43 – The morality of shoulds and shouldn’ts
52:43 – Some positivity, please
55:59 – Policy and bodily autonomy
59:22 – So, how’s the reckoning going?
1:03:46 – The weight of responsibility
1:08:43 – Finding action in the overwhelm
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🫖Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned on this episode
Ryan Shelton - To breed, or not to breed - https://bit.ly/3PbhEmR
Ann Davidman - Should I have kids? - https://bit.ly/4brc477
📖 Things to read
Seed, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/3PhepKv
Eggshell Skull, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/473kvV4
Who Gets To Be Smart, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/4bwOAh1
The Work, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/4rzflar
Beauty, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/3NMnrPf
Love 2.0, by Barbara Fredrickson - https://bit.ly/40ylOYp
Better To Not Have Been, by David Benatar - https://bit.ly/3NmtHx5
IPCC Sixth Assessment Report - https://bit.ly/3Phc7Lt
Ipsos Perils of Perception Climate Change - https://bit.ly/4cP32mT
📺Things to watch
An Inconvenient Truth - https://bit.ly/4bPolUk
💻Things to check out
Freadom Inside Project - https://bit.ly/4bhVxnm
Peter Singer Pond Proximity thought experiment - https://youtu.be/Gu-WUHD6mKg
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When Ben Crowe, world-renowned professional mentor and leadership coach, tells us his favourite mantra, we listen.
“I am enough no matter what, but I’m not done yet”.
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Back in The Academy of Imperfection FOR THE THIRD TIME, Ben is here to talk to Hugh, Ryan and Josh about purpose, play and love.
As Ben explains, ‘play’ and ‘love’ mean something different to everyone, however, they are both ridiculously important and explicitly linked. If love is the intention, then play is the action.
Ben, as always, it was an absolute pleasure to your wisdom bestowed upon us.
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0:00 – Is Ben the Pope?
11:13 – Acceptance vs compassion, confidence vs belief
15:14 – Reshaping your belief system
25:05 – Just Admit It List
30:42 – The dreaded E word
37:47 – Reward effort, not outcome
46:00 – Play deprivation
51:47 – Talking to teenagers about their career
1:01:47 – How to be a (anxious) leader
1:07:04 – Josh’s too generous assumption
1:10: 14 – Doing it for the right reasons
🎧Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned in this episode
The Academy of Imperfection - Ben Crowe - https://bit.ly/40rkUgd
Ben Crowe (Pt 1) - Meet Your Inner Fan - https://bit.ly/46VlfeK
Ben Crowe (Pt 2) - Now BE Your Inner Fan - https://bit.ly/413kVXL
Kate Reid (Pt 1) - The Impossibility of Perfection - https://bit.ly/4ruVAkz
Kate Reid (Pt 2) - The Life-Saving Croissant - https://bit.ly/4by6NMl
Dr Emily - Acceptance, That’s Radical - https://bit.ly/4bAomLD
📖 Things to read
Where The Light Gets In, by Ben Crowe - https://bit.ly/4s04xmN
The Courage To Be Disliked, by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga - https://bit.ly/411Qbq4
🎧 Things to listen to
How Ben Crowe Dads - https://bit.ly/4bidPDH
😃If you liked this episode, check out these!
Bronnie Ware - What Are Your Future Regrets? - https://bit.ly/40lcG9p
Emma Murray - How Mindfulness Actually Works - https://bit.ly/4lpS5dR
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According to Matt Preston, he only has 14 more summers. And he’s determined to make the most of them.
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Known predominantly for his role on the inaugural (and incredibly successful) seasons of MasterChef Australia, alongside his excellent choice of cravats, Matt Preston is a recognisable face in most Australian households.
Joining Hugh, Ryan and Josh in the studio (in yet another incredible outfit), Matt delicately talks through the importance of having a conversation with your parents about end-of-life care.
In a decision that requires both deep emotion and administrative focus, Matt draws from his experience with his grandmother, and then his mother, about how to ensure the people you love are nurtured, cared for, and celebrated in the way they would have wanted.
Matt, thank you so much for joining us.
0:00 – The typo to end all typos
9:13 – Every family has a scandal
24:34 – The unknowables of epilepsy
30:45 – Grieving what could have been
40:44 – Mission of mortality: make it count
44:47 – Parenting not like your parents
53:40 – Conversations about end-of-life care
1:07:35 – The secret ingredient to marriage
1:13:46 – Logistics of death and dying
If you want to watch the full episode (and see Matt’s outfit), follow this link - https://youtu.be/sEN8Mfapi6Y
🫖Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned in this episode
Kate Reid (Pt 1) - The Impossibility of Perfection - https://bit.ly/476XBfg
Kate Reid (Pt 2) - The Life-Saving Croissant - https://bit.ly/4aM7bqd
Christie Whelan Browne - Unbreakable - https://bit.ly/4ukPhTk
📺Things to watch
The Hospital - In The Deep End - https://bit.ly/4rYN6mw
Croquenbouche Masterchef Episode - https://bit.ly/3OILYVG
📖Things to read
Big Mouth, by Matt Preston - https://bit.ly/4cUigXG
🩵SUDEP Support Services
SUDEP Action - https://sudep.org
Epilepsy Foundation - https://bit.ly/4r9W27I
*The average life expectancy for Australian males is calculated at birth, and does not take into account their personal circumstances.
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Pain is inevitable, but suffering does not have to be.
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Dr Emily Musgrove, our resident psychologist and general provider of wisdom, is here to talk about radical acceptance.
Drawing inspiration from our holy grail episode with Gina Chick, Dr Em deep dives radical acceptance; what is it, how do we cultivate it, and why is it important to us as human beings?
According to Dr Em, radical acceptance is not about liking or accepting (insert profanity here) situations or circumstances, or denying an experience, but rather, accepting the pain inside of us to avoid the reaction of suffering.
Instead of feeling better, it’s about finding a better way of feeling.
For Hugh, the concept of radical acceptance really hits close to home, and he reflects on how it has changed his life insurmountably.
Dr Emily, we love ya, and we missed ya.
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0:00 – Getting the Gina Chick zoomies
6:23 – The Radical Acceptance origin story
14:20 – Change how you relate
21:19 – On a global scale
27:25 – An Unwanted Guest
34:42 – The third option
40:38 – Grieving the loss of what you wanted
45:28 – Living proof ft. Hugh
53:18 – Anxious about my anxiety
1:03:26 – Main character moment
1:10:17 – Putting it in practice
🫖Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned on this episode
Gina Chick - Don’t Fight Life - https://bit.ly/4b9nAVG
📖 Things to read
Unstuck, by Dr Emily Musgrove - https://bit.ly/4o8JFay
The Happiness Trap, by Russ Harris - https://bit.ly/4kRn3Lq
The Guest House, by Rumi - https://bit.ly/4kXhaMS
💻Things to check out
Tara Brach - RAIN meditation - https://bit.ly/3MNou0M
Alfred Adler - Three Sided Column - https://bit.ly/3P1gSbJ
Jill Bolte Taylor - 90 second shelf life of emotions - https://bit.ly/4aV5rtL
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You just have to be a good parent 30-40% of the time. According to the research, and parenting expert Maggie Dent.
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In our Academy of Imperfection, Maggie schools parents Hugh and Josh, and trusted non-parental figure Ryan, about the ‘no matter what’ rule, the importance of micro connections and the beauty of a well-timed fart.
An advocate for imperfect parenting (which is REALLY great for brand alignment), Maggie insists on the significance of unconditional love when raising boys.
Maggie you are wonderful. This was wonderful. You’re the best.
Watch the full episode on YouTube - https://youtu.be/iUHYScQ3WgQ
0:00 – Why boys are better than girls
6:22 – The science of boys
14:02 – Shedding the shame
22:28 – Growing healthy boys
31:09 – Connecting with your rooster
42:56 – The S words: screens and social media
47:00 – The good enough factors
57:45 – Correcting the narrative
1:06:05 – Importance of Lightness + Letting go of mistakes
1:11:41 – Raising an autistic boy
1:16:05 – How do you resist the easy method

🫖Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned on this episode
Hugh’s ADHD…brief - https://bit.ly/4aofEjd
📖 Things to read
You can find all of Maggie’s books here - https://bit.ly/46g4GK7
Help Me Help My Teen by Maggie Dent (page 106 to converse with teens) - https://bit.ly/4aYi2NO
Maggie’s Fragile Boy Friendship Blog Post - https://bit.ly/4qUqzGw
📺 Things to watch
Bluey ‘Octopus’ episode - https://bit.ly/4riF2Ng
Marc-Andre Leclerc - The Alpinist - https://bit.ly/4tEsaCR
💻 Things to check out
Allan Schore’s Brain Development for Boys research - https://bit.ly/3OfRyi9
🎧 Things to listen to
The Good Enough Dad with Maggie Dent - https://bit.ly/4aGq2la
Parental As Anything - https://bit.ly/4qHAleM
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