Episode 338: Beyond the Bubble: Data Centers, Demand and the Rise of AI Infrastructure
In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Alexey Teplukhin, Managing Director at Blue Owl Capital, to explore the often-overlooked but critical role of data centers and digital infrastructure in the global economy. Alexey offers expert insights into how these assets are enabling everything from everyday digital activity to the exponential rise of artificial intelligence. The conversation begins with the basics what a data center actually is and quickly dives into what makes them such a compelling, long-term real asset investment.
The discussion also covers how demand for data infrastructure is accelerating, what risks exist around technological disruption, and why Blue Owl focuses on the physical backbone of the digital world rather than trying to bet on the next software winner. With analogies ranging from toll roads to airports, this episode delivers a clear, engaging look at the intersection of AI, infrastructure, and investment strategy making it a must-listen for institutional investors navigating a rapidly evolving digital landscape.
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Episode 337: Backstage with Ares: Private Credit, Platforms & People
In this episode, Stewart Foley welcomes Ryan Brauns of Ares US Direct Lending for a deep dive into the mechanics and momentum behind one of the industry’s most influential private credit platforms. Ryan explains how Ares has scaled its direct lending business, the role of underwriting discipline, and why duration alignment remains one of the most important considerations for insurers entering the asset class.
The conversation explores everything from the structure of Ares’ capital pools to how leverage, covenants, and loan-to-value ratios fit into today’s market realities. Ryan also shares insights on spread dynamics, the rise of retail participation, and how insurers, large and small, are thinking about private credit in their strategic asset allocations.
Whether you’re new to private credit or want a deeper look behind the scenes of one of the space’s leading managers, this episode offers valuable clarity and perspective for insurance investment professionals.
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Episode 336: How Insurers Can Unlock Alpha Through Residential Whole Loans
Nancy Mueller Handal, Chief Investment Officer of Insurance Asset Management at Bayview Asset Management, shares her insights on how insurers can pursue alpha through residential loans and asset-based finance. With extensive experience in structured credit, Nancy explains why residential whole loans can be a strong fit for insurance portfolios when managed with discipline and precision. She discusses the capital efficiency of the asset class, the appeal of agency-eligible and non-QM loans, and the role of thoughtful underwriting in mitigating risk.
The discussion also covers the evolution of the residential credit market, the importance of robust data and infrastructure, and the risks that come with layered credit and valuation gaps. Nancy outlines how Bayview’s platform approaches sourcing and portfolio construction at scale, and why residential loans can provide diversification and long-term value when approached with a careful, insurer-aligned strategy.
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Episode 335: The Low Rate Environment Could Impact Products and Investment Portfolio Mix
In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Bob Huang, Executive Director of Equity Research for the Property & Casualty and Life Insurance Group at Morgan Stanley, sits down with Stewart Foley for a timely and insightful conversation on the implications of a declining interest rate environment. Drawing on one of the broadest insurance company coverages on Wall Street, Bob shares how rate cuts could influence earnings, asset allocations, product design, and underwriting dynamics across both life and P&C insurers.
Bob explains why falling short-end rates may pressure floating-rate-heavy portfolios, how product offerings like fixed and indexed annuities could evolve in response, and why duration mismatches and spread compression are becoming top concerns. The discussion also highlights how the interplay between product structures and investment strategy is shifting, especially in an era of increased competition and regulatory complexity.
Whether you're managing risk, building product, or allocating capital, this episode offers key takeaways for navigating volatility and staying ahead in a changing rate cycle.
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Episode 334: Key Themes for 2025 – Affordability, Land-light Models, and Demographics
In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, welcomes back Robert Clark, Chief Investment Officer and Founding Partner of Domain Real Estate Partners, for a timely discussion on the state of U.S. residential real estate. With affordability continuing to challenge buyers and mortgage rates remaining elevated, Bob offers a deep dive into how homebuilders are adapting their models in 2025, from navigating margin pressure and shifting demographics to embracing land-light strategies.
The conversation explores the growing role of insurance capital in financing residential development and how institutional investors are responding to macroeconomic forces such as immigration policy and interest rate volatility. Bob also discusses how Domain partners with homebuilders to manage risk and unlock capital efficiency in an increasingly complex housing market.
Whether you're focused on credit, real assets, or portfolio construction, this episode offers valuable perspective on the intersection of real estate fundamentals and investment opportunity in today’s market.
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