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Margaret McKnight, Partner and Head of Portfolio Solutions at StepStone Real Estate, and Brendan MacDonald, Partner and Chief Operating Officer at StepStone Real Estate, discuss why the current real estate reset may be creating an attractive opportunity set for secondaries investors. They explore how higher rates have pressured valuations, leverage, liquidity, and transaction activity, while increasing demand for GP-led secondaries, recapitalizations, and other capital solutions.
 
The conversation also covers real estate’s role in portfolio diversification and inflation protection, the impact of debt maturities and aging fund structures, and how StepStone uses global manager relationships, data, and underwriting capabilities to identify opportunities across markets and property types. They also discuss how insurance investors can think about accessing the asset class across different risk and return profiles.

David Ross, Managing Director and Head of Private Credit at Northleaf, joins the InsuranceAUM Podcast to discuss the current state of private credit and how investors are navigating a market shaped by volatility, elevated base rates, changing capital flows and new risks associated with artificial intelligence. He explores why underlying portfolio performance remains resilient overall, where pockets of stress are emerging and how investors should evaluate returns on a loss-adjusted basis.
 
David also discusses how Northleaf is assessing AI risk across individual companies and industries, why diversification and selectivity remain critical, and how periods of market dislocation can create opportunities for patient capital. The conversation also examines the evolving relationship between insurers and private credit managers, including the growth of customized mandates, co-investments and bespoke capital partnerships.
 
Looking ahead to 2027, David shares why disciplined underwriting, active risk management and a focus on underlying company fundamentals will remain central to navigating the next phase of the private credit market.

The lines between broadly syndicated loans and private credit are becoming increasingly blurred as borrowers gain more flexibility in how they access capital. Taylor Boswell, Head of Credit Origination and Research at AGL Credit, explains what is driving that convergence, why larger borrowers can offer attractive through-cycle characteristics, and how portfolio construction can influence long-term credit outcomes.
 
Beyond market convergence, the discussion looks at private credit structures, expected losses, bank and asset manager partnerships, and differentiated sourcing. Taylor also shares AGL Credit’s perspective on AI-related risks across software, data centers, and corporate borrowers, and why disciplined underwriting and active portfolio management remain essential.

Greg Eudicone, Head of Global Real Estate Client Portfolio Management at Barings, discusses how the commercial real estate opportunity set is evolving across geographies, sectors, and the capital structure. He shares Barings’ perspective on why real estate has become a more selective market, with meaningful dispersion across office, multifamily, industrial, retail, and alternative property types.
 
The conversation also explores relative value between real estate debt and equity, opportunities created by bank retrenchment, and the growing role of healthcare, manufactured housing, student housing, and other specialized sectors. Greg also discusses how insurers are approaching real estate credit, the importance of active asset management and origination capabilities, and why disciplined underwriting may matter more as volatility persists.

Aryeh “Ari” Landsberg, Managing Director at 17Capital, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to explore how NAV finance has evolved from a specialized private markets solution into an increasingly mainstream portfolio management tool. He explains the fundamentals of NAV financing, including how lenders provide capital against diversified portfolios of mature private equity investments rather than relying on the performance of a single company.
 
The conversation examines the forces driving greater adoption of NAV finance, from changing liquidity conditions and longer private equity holding periods to the need for flexible capital that can support additional investment in existing portfolio companies. Ari also walks through 17Capital’s underwriting approach, including diversification, seniority, low loan-to-value ratios, fundamental company analysis, and ongoing monitoring of portfolio performance and risk.
 
Ari also discusses where he sees the NAV finance market heading as private credit continues to expand and sponsors hold investments for longer periods. He explains how NAV financing can support add-on acquisitions, talent investment, refinancing, and other strategies intended to maximize portfolio company value, while sharing his perspective on the importance of discipline, collaboration, intellectual curiosity, and adaptability as the market continues to mature.