The Pomp Podcast

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of market experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we unpack the Federal Reserve rate pause, the case for a more forward-looking Fed, and how rapidly advancing AI is reshaping inflation vs. deflation expectations. We also explore the scarcity trade across bitcoin, silver, energy, and semiconductors—and how investors can think about positioning as physical constraints collide with abundant software.
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0:00 – Intro

1:24 – Fed’s decision to pause interest rates

5:05 – Impact of the next Fed chair

7:07 – Time, psychology, & bitcoin

10:32 – Pricing assets in gold terms

11:40 – AI factories, energy, and compute limits

15:29 – Metals runs & investor fear

18:37 – Software selloff & big tech risk

24:02 – Trimming winners & rotating capital

28:44 – Elon, Tesla, & SpaceX

34:07 – Jordi’s Sunday video preview & AI urgency

Peter Schiff is the Chief Economist of Euro Pacific Asset Management and the Chairman of Schiff Gold. In this conversation, we discuss the state of the U.S. economy, inflation, tariffs, the weakening dollar, and the outlook for gold, silver, and bitcoin. We also dive into global trade, monetary policy, and engage in a heated debate over whether tariffs and a weaker dollar help or hurt the economy.
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0:00 – Intro

2:31 – Why metals are ripping

9:41 – Tariff fight: who pays + price examples

20:02 – Inflation data debate (CPI vs real-time metrics)

23:29 – AI: deflation vs inflation argument

28:15 – Can the U.S. rebuild manufacturing fast?

39:44 – Gold vs Bitcoin debate

49:44 – Peter Schiff’s portfolio breakdown

52:56 – “If inflation is low, why buy bitcoin?”

56:56 – Schiff plugs: gold, funds, newsletter

1:00:45 – Closing thoughts

Bob Murphy is a Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute and Chief Economist at Infineon. In this conversation, we discuss Federal Reserve policy, tariffs, and what’s really happening in the U.S. economy. We break down the housing market, inflation, and what it all means for your wallet—plus Bob’s Austrian economics perspective on gold, bitcoin, and the road ahead.
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0:00 – Intro

1:52 – Why gold has outperformed bitcoin

5:06 – Fed vs White House: power, politics, & “independence”

17:03 – Tariffs, trade deficits, & inflation outlook

22:06 – Stablecoins: why they matter & key risks

28:34 – Economic data: what to trust?

In this solo episode, Anthony Pompliano explains why bitcoin is lagging while gold, silver, copper, and platinum are surging. He breaks down the forces driving the metals rally, how Wall Street adoption has reshaped bitcoin’s market structure, and why inflation expectations, global stability, and AI are influencing where capital flows today.
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0:00 – Bitcoin vs metals: what’s driving the divergence?

5:02 – Wall Street adoption & bitcoin’s market structure shift

8:46 – Bitcoin as a chaos & inflation hedge

12:24 – AI, attention, & competition for capital

13:33 – Final thoughts & long-term patience

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of market experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. This was recorded live at the Real Vision 2026 Crypto Gathering. In this conversation, we discuss the scarcity trade across markets, bitcoin’s potential short squeeze, silver’s role as a critical industrial metal, and the inflation vs. deflation debate. We also explore how AI, robotics, and productivity shifts could reshape markets in the years ahead.
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#GeminiCreditCard #CryptoRewards This video is sponsored by Gemini. All opinions expressed are my own and not influenced or endorsed by Gemini. Gemini-branded credit products are issued by WebBank. For more information regarding fees, interest, and other cost information, see Rates & Fees: ⁠https://gemini.com/legal/cardholder-agreement ⁠Some exclusions apply to instant rewards; these are deposited when the transaction posts. 4% back is available on up to $300 in spend per month for a year (then 1% on all other Gas, EV charging, and transit purchases that month). Spend cycle will refresh on the 1st of each calendar month. See Rewards Program Terms for details: ⁠https://gemini.com/legal/credit-card-rewards-agreement ⁠Checking if you’re eligible will not impact your credit score. If you’re eligible and choose to proceed, a hard credit inquiry will be conducted that can impact your credit score. Eligibility does not guarantee approval.
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0:00 – Intro

1:21 – Bitcoin, silver & the coming scarcity trade

6:36 – Politics, Davos & why it doesn’t matter for markets

9:52 – Inflation vs deflation

13:10 – Why is bitcoin’s price not higher right now?

18:18 – Quantum risk & bitcoin security

19:55 – OpenAI, AI competition & monetization

25:28 – Elon Musk, Tesla & humanoid robots

31:59 – Robotaxis, dark factories & the future of labor

38:43 – How small businesses should use AI

42:34 – Strategy & bitcoin as collateral

45:08 – Robotics, vision models & what’s next