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  • YIELD TALKS: The Rise of Managed Strategies Onchain, Inside Avant’s savUSD and savBTC
    Rhett Shipp is the CoFounder at Avant.In this episode, we unpack how Avant is bringing actively managed, hedge fund–like strategies onchain through permissionless, yield-bearing tokens like savUSD earning 10% and savBTC earning 3.8%.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro1:21 - Avant founder background3:35 - Who are key customers for yield-bearing assets?5:14 - Understanding the stablecoin landscape13:03 - Sponsor break15:50 - What is avUSD vs savUSD?22:29 - Scaling yield strategies backing savUSD25:52 - Sponsor break27:54 - Avant security34:35 - What is avBTC vs savBTC?38:32 - TradFi demand for Avant yields41:58 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Avant website: https://www.avantprotocol.com/► Avant on X: https://x.com/avantprotocol► Rhett on X: https://x.com/RhettShipp------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
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  • Ethereum’s Next Chapter, According to The Foundation’s New Leader
    Tomasz Stańczak is the Founder of Nethermind and now Co-Executive Director at the Ethereum Foundation.In this episode, the Ethereum Foundation’s new Co-Executive Director shares his vision for Ethereum’s next decade--covering L1 scaling, the evolving role of the EF, treasury policy, and how Ethereum can stay essential in an AI-powered world.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 – Intro6:35 – Tomasz’s Path to EF Leadership16:46 – EF’s Legacy Role vs. Today’s Mission22:34 – How Regulation Shapes Ethereum & Crypto27:36 – Sponsor Break28:17 – Ethereum’s Top Priorities: L1 Scaling, Blobs & UX39:08 – Will Ethereum Accrue Value if L2s Win?43:49 – Sponsor Break45:28 – Inside EF’s New Treasury Policy49:24 – New Collaboration Models: Etherealize & Beyond52:58 – Ethereum + AI: What’s Possible?1:04:03 – What Success Looks Like in 10 Years1:09:57 – Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Ethereum website: https://ethereum.org/► EF website: https://ethereum.foundation/► Ethereum on X: https://x.com/ethereum► EF on X: https://x.com/ethereumfndn► Tomasz on X: https://x.com/tkstanczak------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. Both DeFi Dad and Nomatic hold ETH. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
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  • Why We’re Irresponsibly Long DeFi
    In this special crossover episode, we take the hot seat as guests for the first time, to talk about why we remain so bullish on DeFi!Guided by Wallfacer Podcast host Ryan Rodenbaugh, we cover a wide range of investor topics including how Bitcoin’s ideological roots still shape today’s industry, why Ethereum and ETH remain fundamentally undervalued, the growing tension between narratives and reality in crypto, and how our perspective as DeFi users informs how we invest as angels. We even share some of the actual protocols and tokens we’ve been allocating to, something we rarely do in such detail.Special thanks to our friend Ryan for hosting! He is the CoFounder & CEO of Wallfacer Labs, the team behind vaults.fyi, connecting users directly to 500+ DeFi vaults across 50+ protocols and 10+ blockchain networks. Ryan was kind enough to originally invite us on The Wallfacer Podcast and then allow us to republish this episode for our own audience.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro5:37 - Our start in crypto16:46 - How our roots in Bitcoin grounds us21:46 - Bitcoin vs Ethereum vs high-performance L1 ideologies30:05 - Sponsor break30:46 - Ethereum and ETH’s bright path ahead41:24 - All investments start with our POV as users47:58 - Pros and cons of narratives over reality54:33 - Notable winners from DeFi 1.0 to now1:08:18 - Sponsor break1:09:57 - What needs to happen for DeFi tokens to reprice?1:22:44 - DeFi ideas, protocols, tokens we’ve bet on recently1:40:46 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► vaults.fyi website: https://vaults.fyi/► vaults.fyi on X : https://x.com/vaultsfyi► Ryan on X: https://x.com/ryanrodenbaugh► Wallfacer Labs on X: https://x.com/wallfacerlabs► Subscribe to The Wallfacer Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wallfacer-podcast/id1709530326------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
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  • YIELD TALKS: How Volmex Helps Measure, Track, and Trade Crypto Volatility
    Cole Kennelly is the Founder and CEO at Volmex Labs.In this episode, we dive into how Volmex created the first crypto-native volatility indices, BVIV and EVIV, and how traders can now measure, track, and even trade crypto market volatility using tools modeled after the VIX.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro1:06 - Cole’s background2:33 - The importance of volatility in crypto4:41 - Sponsor break7:39 - Why crypto needs Volmex indices?9:49 - Overview of Volmex indices12:39 - Will Volmex ever support perps for trading funding rates?13:24 - How are investors using Volmex?17:16 - DEX/CEX interest in perps for Volmex indices21:46 - The perseverance to find product-market fit27:12 - Sponsor break29:12 - Trends in BVIV, EVIV, SVIV33:33 - Understanding Volmex Prime Rate Indices (VPR)35:50 - What is tradeable onchain?38:04 - Future Volmex token and points program40:46 - What’s next in Volmex roadmap?42:48 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Volmex website: https://volmex.finance/► Volmex Foundation website: https://charts.volmex.finance/► Volmex on X: https://x.com/volmexfinance► Volmex Foundation on X: https://x.com/VolmexFDN► Cole on X: https://x.com/ColeGotTweets------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. 4RC invested in Volmex's seed round in 2021. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
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  • Spark Isn’t A Bank, It’s So Much Bigger
    Sam MacPherson is CEO at Phoenix Labs, a service provider to Spark.In this episode, we explore how one of the top 5 largest DeFi protocols scaled to billions in liquidity onchain without a token, and why its upcoming SPK launch, RWA strategy, and “not a bank” campaign prove it’s just getting started.EDITOR'S NOTE: Since recording, liquidity deposited into Spark grew from $3.6B to $4B.------🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS🔮 PYTH NETWORK | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS🤙 FAIR | THE FIRST L1 BLOCKCHAIN TO ELIMINATE MEV AT CONSENSUS📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET------Timestamps0:00 - Intro5:55 - Start at Maker12:40 - Spark spinning out of Maker17:07 - The Spark product suite21:11 - Capacity to onramp another $20B23:21 - Serious interest in yield from institutions25:28 - Sponsor break26:09 - Spark’s interest in lending to institutions like BlackRock28:50 - Strategy for the stablecoin boom31:19 - Web2 partners will offer access to Spark yields32:26 - Spark’s interest in more RWAs37:24 - Sponsor break39:03 - Who decides where SLL will allocate capital?44:25 - Spark is not a bank49:11 - SPK TGE, Pendle campaign, and airdrop51:46 - Rewarding legacy Spark users52:44 - Sam’s vision for Spark54:22 - Closing------🔗 Guest Links 🔗► Spark website: https://spark.fi/► Spark Data Hub website: https://data.spark.fi/► Spark on X: https://x.com/sparkdotfinance► Sam on X: https://x.com/hexonaut------All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. As of the recording, DeFi Dad and Nomatic are holding YT-USDS on Pendle, expiring August 13, 2025. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
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