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Max Corbridge, an ethical hacker and red teamer who is co-founder and CEO of Secure Agentics, speaks with SE Radio host Amey Ambade about how AI agents get attacked and what engineers can actually do to defend them. Drawing on years of offensive security work, Corbridge frames agents as a new and largely undefended attack surface: the industry has handed AI systems autonomy and the ability to act in the real world while carrying forward prompt injection, a flaw the frontier labs themselves describe as effectively unsolvable. He likens the moment to the early, lawless days of the web, when SQL injection was everywhere and adoption ran far ahead of security.
The conversation builds from first principles as Corbridge explains what separates an agent from ordinary software and why three properties make them hard to secure: they are non-deterministic, their language-model core can be coerced, and they are increasingly interconnected through MCP servers, other agents, databases, and email. Turning to the attack surface, Corbridge lays out his "lethal trifecta" (a vulnerable core, dense interconnection, and security tooling that has not caught up) and contrasts the decades of layered defenses protecting an ordinary email inbox with the thin protection around agents that take autonomous actions on critical systems.
The heart of the episode is defense. Corbridge orders practices by leverage: least-privilege access and privilege separation, sandboxing where feasible, imperfect-but-useful guardrails as one layer of defense in depth, and human-in-the-loop for irreversible actions (which he notes is contentious and does not scale). The discussion closes on detecting a compromised or drifting agent, the value of watching an agent's chain-of-thought reasoning alongside its actions, the open-source tooling landscape (including Corbridge's own project, Adrian), and his central advice: build security in proactively, define what good agent behavior looks like up front, and avoid bolting it on after agents have already spread across the business.

Jason Gorman, a software development expert and founder of Codemanship, joins host Giovanni Asproni to explore how best to use AI in software development. They start by considering how established technical practices — test-driven development, modularization, continuous integration, and continuous reviews — become more important, not less, when working with AI assistance. These practices help address several key limitations of LLMs, including keeping context windows as small as possible.
Looking at AI's impact on team productivity, Jason offers some practical advice for teams to introduce AI tools into their workflows.
The episode also explores spec-driven development, agentic programming, and the importance of writing readable, understandable code — even when it's AI-generated. Finally, Jason and Giovanni look at emerging research into the cognitive downsides of over-reliance on AI, and what developers can do about it.

Sonali Varde, Senior Software Engineering Manager at LinkedIn, joins host Kanchan Shringi to discuss how AI is changing the role of the engineering manager. They explore how AI is showing up in day-to-day management work, including operational reviews, planning, communication, workflow automation, and preparation for leadership discussions.
The conversation looks at how engineering teams are adopting AI tools and agents, what kinds of skills and practices are becoming more important, and how managers can think about context, review, testing, and operational rigor as AI-assisted development becomes more common. They also discuss how AI affects coaching, performance conversations, hiring, onboarding, team composition, and collaboration with peers and leadership. The episode considers both the opportunities and limits of AI for engineering management, with attention to human judgment, curiosity, ownership, and the continuing importance of technical and organizational understanding.

Birgitta Boeckeler, a Distinguished Engineer and consultant focused on AI-assisted software delivery at Thoughtworks, joins host Priyanka Raghavan for a deep dive into harnesses for AI agents.
The episode begins by unpacking the concept of harnesses and harness engineering before exploring the core building blocks — guides and sensors — that help AI agents operate more reliably in engineering environments.
Priyanka and Birgitta discuss practical implementations of harnesses in real-world workflows, including the use of guides with .MD files and sensors with tools such as SonarQube and Semgrep, which steer agent behavior. The episode also explores how harnesses integrate with existing CI/CD pipelines and pull-request processes. Birgitta describes how stronger harnesses can improve trust in AI-generated code, while emphasizing that harnesses themselves require continuous maintenance as underlying foundation models evolve. The episode concludes with a thoughtful discussion on accountability between humans and agents, along with future directions for harness engineering and AI-assisted software development.

Garth Mollet, Senior Principal Product Security Engineer and Technical Advisor for Product Security at Red Hat, joins host Robert Blumen for a discussion of AI supply chain security. They start with the basics of supply chain security, including the key components of the AI supply chain, and how it differs from the conventional software supply chain. Garth discusses whether the attacks target model weights or inference, and describes the most common attacks and what's in it for the attacker, whether exfiltration, credentials, sabotage, or resources. The episode also considers SPIFFE, SPIRE, attestation, workload identity, and whether AI has the equivalent of "reproducible builds."
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